<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 25 July 2007 - Volume 04</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_didimasure@hotmail.com" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Diederik Masure</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:didimasure@hotmail.com">didimasure@hotmail.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.07.25 (02) [A/E]
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Funny that we're discussing this word here now, yesterday evening I had
a discussion with my father on old, disappearing words, and we talked
about the word "velo" getting replaced by "fiets" here recently. "Velo"
is still alive and kicking but according to my feeling it has a
frequency of less than 1/3 in informal context (well, at least I myself
use "fiets" in about 2/3 of the cases). </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">At
the end of the 19th century it sometimes was called "flosjepeërd" in
Antwerp dialect, a folk-etymologic interpretation of "velocipede",
where the last part of the word was associated with a peërd/horse.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span>
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_wkv@home.nl" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
wim <<a href="mailto:wkv@home.nl">wkv@home.nl</a>></span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.07.24 (03) [A/E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">From wim verdoold </span></font><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">
<a href="mailto:wkv@home.nl" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><span lang="EN-GB">wkv@home.nl</span></a></span></font><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">
<span lang="EN-GB"> zwolle city netherlands</span></span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Hi </span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">about fiets,</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">I hear two stories about
the origin of the word fiets..</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">One: it comes from
velocipede through flitsepede, the word was mangled till it becaqme fiets..</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Second: the inventor of
the fiets is mr Fitzgerald in Scotland,
hence Fitz. </span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">The second story I have
from my grandfather who died at the age of 93 ( in 1980). </span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">He grew up in a
volksbuurt in den Haag. (And only spoke the local dialect). So it s probably
volksethymologie .</span></font></p><p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Groeten uit Zwolle</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">wim</span></font></p><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_jonny.meibohm@arcor.de" style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">jonny</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.07.24 (03) [A/E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span>Beste
Elaine,</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span>have a look
here:</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><a href="http://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/fiets" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/fiets</a></span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" align="left">Allerbest!</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" align="left"> </div>
<font style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Jonny Meibohm<br><br>----------<br><br></font><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_Dutchmatters@comcast.net" style="color: rgb(204, 0, 96); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong <<a href="mailto:Dutchmatters@comcast.net">Dutchmatters@comcast.net</a>></span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.07.24 (03) [A/E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">
Re Fiets, Hello Elaine.</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">The word fiets is apparently a
bastardization of the French vitesse. To speak with Martha Stewart, it is a
good thing for us low-land folk. It gets us easily from one place to another.
The one remaining question is how to get control of the wind. It seems to
always come right at us. Jacqueline BdJ</span></font></p><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">