<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 26 July 2007 - Volume 02</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_ezinsser@icon.co.za" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Elsie Zinsser</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Morphophonology" 2007.07.25 (11) [A/E]
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi all,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Ron, I don't
think the users of oge instead of oë would know<br>that this
is an original Dutch form, especially not the 80-plus<br>users. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="q">
<p style="text-indent: 36pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">I take it
pretty much all Afrikaans speakers recognize the older (and Dutch) forms.</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p>
<p><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">About Kuschke's
"Rosie van die velde', keep in mind that this was translated with the sole
purpose of being sung<br>and not
seen as poetry. The lines are loaded with forced rhyming and other unmentionables
and not a true<br>reflection
of how Afrikaans is spoken after 1950. <span> </span></span></font></span></p></span>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Rhymed Psalms,
translated before the 60's, suffered the same ugly fate and making for some funny
parts which I<br>only understood
years later! </span></font></span><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="q">
<p style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Another
weird one tends to be 'to go' and 'to stand'. Going by the otherwise
consistent deletion of old infinitive <i><span style="font-style: italic;">-(e)n</span></i>
in Afrikaans, we would expect * and <i><span style="font-style: italic;">ga*sta</span></i>
.</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p></span>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">But the
forms are still used in Gariep Afrikaans. We've discussed these before: </span></font></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 150%; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE">- Loep ga sta doer by jou pa.<br>- Wat ga sta jy doer in die
middel van die pad?<br>- Vir wat ga vertel jy vir ma
dat ek 'n dampie gehê het? Sta so lat ek jou ka klap!<br><span></span>- La ek jille nou vetel wa Dawid
die wortels gegrou het.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 150%; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE"><span></span><span lang="DE">Groete,</span><br>Elsie Zinsser</span></font></span></p>
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_ezinsser@icon.co.za" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Elsie Zinsser</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"> <<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Morphophonology" 2007.07.25 (12) [E]</span>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi all,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Ron, your
rule is valid: </span></font></span></p>
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="q">
<p style="margin-left: 66pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">A verb
whose etymological root ends with a vowel takes on <i><span style="font-style: italic;">-n</span></i>.</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">(1) Examples (go, stand,
see):</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p><p style="margin-left: 66pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;" lang="DE">gaan! - staan! - sien!
</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;" lang="DE"> </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;" lang="DE"></span></font></p>
<p><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="DE">Sie dat julle wegkom!</span></font></span><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;" lang="DE"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;" lang="DE">
<br>
</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;" lang="DE"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">(2) As opposed to (eat,
bake, cook): </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 66pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">eet! -
bak! - kook!<br>
ek eet - ek bak - ek kook<br>
jy eet - jy bak - jy kook <br>
hy eet - u bak - jy kook<br>
ons eet - ons bak - ons kook<br>
ek sal eet - ek sal bak - ek sal kook</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">(3) But what about cases like <i><span style="font-style: italic;">sê</span>
</i>
(say) and <i><span style="font-style: italic;">gee</span></i> (give)? Well, look,
Mom! No <i><span style="font-style: italic;">-n</span></i>!</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p><p style="margin-left: 66pt;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">
sê! -
gee!</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"> </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p>
<p><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="FR">They are often
shortened, for example:<br>Gie my nou daai skottel! <span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p></span>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;" lang="FR"></span></font><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="FR">
Thanks!<br>Elsie Zinsser</span></font></span></p>
<font style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" color="navy" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;" lang="FR">==</span></font><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="q"><font color="black">
<span style="color: black;" lang="FR"><br>
ek sê - ek gee<br>
jy sê - jy gee<br>
hy sê - hy gee<br>
ons sê - ons gee<br>
ek sal sê - ek sal gee</span></font></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">