<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 02 August 2007 - Volume 03</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_pat@caerlas.demon.co.uk" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Pat Reynolds</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:pat@caerlas.demon.co.uk">pat@caerlas.demon.co.uk</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2007.08.01 (04) [E]
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">In message<br><<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:57c981290708011334o5b0b5e09l738fe31348e027d0@mail.gmail.com">
57c981290708011334o5b0b5e09l738fe31348e027d0@mail.gmail.com</a>>,<br>Lowlands-L List <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:lowlands.list@gmail.com">lowlands.list@gmail.com</a>> (
i.e. Tom Carty writes<br>>Below I post a coupl of my new poems: three Haikus. Tell me what you<br>>think.<br>><br>>Come along with me<br>>Adventure awaits us now<br>>Beyond what we now see<br><br>The first line strikes me as 'throat-clearing' - which is possibly
<br>self-indulgent in a haiku, where every last syllable has to earn its<br>living (well, it does in every poem, it's just in haiku that the<br>shirkers are really evident). One syllable ('come') covers everything
<br>you spend five on.<br><br>Compacting the three lines into two would give you space to do a bit<br>more (I'm easy as to whether that's more about 'what we now see', more<br>about 'adventure', or more about the voyage....
<br><br>Strictly (I think) the last line is a syllable too long. I don't think<br>it needs the second 'now'. Unfortunately, I can't help recalling the<br>Lord Dunsany's 'beyond the fields we know'.
<br><br>You have got me in the mood for writing poetry!<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Pat<br></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="sg">--<br>Pat Reynolds<br><br>It may look messy now ...<br> ... but just you come back in 500 years time (T. Pratchett).
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</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: Literature<br><br>I go along with what Gabriele and Pat said.<br><br>I would like to add that I do appreciate the sentiments expressed in the poems, but I would call them "poems in haiku meter" rather than "haiku." They don't do the most important things haiku are supposed to do, and they do what haiku are not supposed to do. The 7-5-7 syllable scheme isn't all
<span style="font-style: italic;">that</span> important and other schemes are often used (such as 4-5-4 or even 2-3-2). Among other things, a haiku must do the following:<br></span><ul style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<li>express the season by means of a "season expression" (季語 <span style="font-style: italic;">kigo</span>), which may be a fairly direct reference (e.g., autumn, snow, chrysanthemum, frosted window pane, leaves on the pavement) or an indirect reference (
e.g., children playing in a pool), though it's true that more and more non-Japanese haiku omit this,</li><li>imply momentary awareness of transience and temporariness as well as the assumption that human perception is delusion, these being key concepts of Zen (禅) and of Buddhism,
</li><li>stay away from dualistic thinking and thus avoid value judgment and moralizing,</li><li>avoid the obvious use of metaphors,</li><li>create the impression that it is "incidental," even "careless," sprang up spontaneously (like a "jotted" brush painting or calligraphy, or a flower thrown into a vase rather than carefully placed into it)--in other words, it should not show the labor involved in conceptualizing and executing it.
</li></ul><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Writing haiku is very difficult.<br><br>Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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