<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 05 August 2007 - Volume 03</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_victorie.a@home.nl" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Arend Victorie</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:victorie.a@home.nl">victorie.a@home.nl</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Folklore"</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Moi Reinhard,</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Verklaoring Kobold.</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Kabouter (15 73) <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">cabouterman.</span></b><br>(1595<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">
)
cabouter.</span></b> Daarnaast ook westvlaams en Fries <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">klabouter.</span></b><br>Kan wegens middelnederlands <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">coubout. </span></b>Niet gescheiden worden
<br>Van Hoogduits <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Kobold. </span></b>Dat uit <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Kuba-Walda =
huisbestuurder/huisgeest </span></b>verklaard wordt.<br>Het eerste deel is middelnederduits <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">köve=hutje/schuur, </span></b>oudengels <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">cofa </span></b>
nieuwengels <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">cove</span></b><br>Oudnoors <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">kofi/vertrek</span></b>
dat verder samenhangt met grieks <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">gupê=onderaardse
woning.</span></b><br>Het tweede lid is het Germaanse werkwoord <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">waldan=besturen</span></b></span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Met het Nederlandse <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">puk, </span></b>en 't drentse puk en pukkie, kom
ik niet verder dan <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">klein persoon.</span></b></span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Now is een kebolter ok een klein persoon.
Mar ik zie gien vergelieking mit Pan, Pan is toch een bosgod?</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">De geit en de bok wördt bij oons meer
verienzölfdigt mit de duuvel, de duuvel har volgens de volksverhaolen ok horens
en bokkepoten.</span></font></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><b><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-weight: bold;">Arend
Victorie</span></font></b></p><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">
From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" title="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span></font><br><font size="3">
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<span></span>Subject: Folklore</span></font><br><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">
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Och, ja, Marlou, nu besinn ik mi wedder, dankens Di. Ik kenn em man as Niss
Puck, un dat mit "Puuk" harr ik daar nich mit verbunnen. </span></font><br><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">
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Niks för ungood, leve Niss! Ik b ün ook wedder arig.</span></font><br><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">
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</span></font>Folks,
Marlou reminded me of a North German house spirit named Niss Puck, whom she
mentioned in her translation as "Nis Puuk," which is why I didn't
recognize him. Obviously he's related to the Welsh Pwc ( <i><span style="font-style: italic;">pwca</span></i>) Heather talked about a few days ago,
also to the Irish Púka, the Frisian Puk, the Icelandic Púki and the German
Putz, and of course also to Puck in Shakespeare's <i><span style="font-style: italic;">Midsummer Night's Dream</span></i>.<br>
<br>
Apparently, this figure began as a nature spirit. In Ireland, goats are often
referred to as "puck." This leads me to suspect that there is a
connection with the faun Pan (Greek <i><span style="font-style: italic;">Πάν</span></i>, and various satyrs) of
the Mediterranean region.<br>
<br>
Any ideas with a
Lowlands focus?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br></div><font style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" face="Arial"><br>----------<br><br></font><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com
</a>></span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: Folklore</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Beste Arend,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Du schreyvst:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">
Mar ik zie gien vergelieking mit Pan, Pan is toch een bosgod?</span></font></div>
<p style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">De geit en de bok wördt bij oons meer
verienzölfdigt mit de duuvel, de duuvel har volgens de volksverhaolen ok horens
en bokkepoten.</span></font></p><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Ja, man ik schreyv' ook:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(51, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Apparently, this figure began as a nature spirit. In Ireland, goats are often
referred to as "puck."<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Kan wesen, dat hyr 'n paar figuren mengeleyrd sünd. Man vun belang is dat düsse "puk" eynerwegens mit 'n bok verbunnen wardt un as Pan un dey satyren schavernaksch [schelmsch] is. Neddersassisch "puts" (Duytschland) un "pots" (Nedderlanden) un ook Nedderlandsch
</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">pots</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> un </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">poets</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
kaamt schynts vun Duytsch </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Putz</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> af, wat nu "streyk" (NL </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
streek</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">) or "undoegd" (gekheid, dwaasheid, frivoliteit) beduydt man in olde tyden vun </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">puk
</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> af-keym.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Dat bok-element hyr un ook in d'n sin vun "duyvel", Pan (> Latynsch
</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Faunus</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">) un dey satyren (σάτυροι </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
sátyroi</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">) kümt schynts vun "seksuel sharp (un </span><span style="text-decoration: underline; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">putsig</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
)" af, dey "verleyders" vun mennig eyn "goude" deyrn (νύμφη </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">nýmphē</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">) un jung (ἐρώμενος
</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">erómenos</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">). </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Wikipedia:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">It is likely that the demonized images of the
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubus_%28demon%29" title="Incubus (demon)">incubus</a> and even the horns and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloven-hoof" title="Cloven-hoof">cloven hooves</a> of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan" title="Satan">
Satan</a>, as depicted in much Christian literature and art, were taken from the images of the highly sexual Pan.<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Kumpelmenten,
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">