<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 22 September 2007 - Volume 01</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span id="_user_k9mw@yahoo.com" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Mike Wintzer <<a href="mailto:k9mw@yahoo.com">k9mw@yahoo.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Language death" 2007.09.21 (01) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Ron, you wrote:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q"> <div> Some
of the migrating bands moved into the then largely vacated regions,
though personally I would not be surprised to find that they absorbed
remnants of East Germanic populations.</div> </span> <span class="sg"></span></blockquote><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div>I would not be surprised if the Völkerwanderung only concerned the elite,</div>
<div>Probably many common people, craftsmen, farmers... stayed put.</div> <div>Can anyone shed more light on this?<br><br><span class="sg">Mike Wintzer<br><br>----------<br><br>From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">
sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: History<br><br>I have no idea, Mike, and I would be surprised if anyone knew, because all records about the Lowlands parts of the Great Migration and the nations involved in it come from second- or third-hand Greek and Roman references. The way we refer to the
</span><span class="sg">Great Migration </span><span class="sg">and early times thereafter these days tends to be of the type of "The X moved to Y and conquered Z," as though <span style="font-weight: bold;">all
</span> X were involved. This may have been the case with small, "minor" band, most of which we may not even know anything about these days. I find it unlikely to be the case where whole regions were supposed vacated and then repopulated. An example are the Saxons a large portion of which migrated to Britain, while the rest stayed put, probably absorbing others and finally being overwhelmed by the Franks and their vassals. Why, even the Goths, vacating their largely flooded land in Southern Scandinavia, probably left
</span><span class="sg"> behind</span><span class="sg"> relatives, considering apparent similarities between Old Gutnish (of southeastern Gothland (Gotland) and Fårö in Sweden) and Gothic. (Perhaps our Arthur can tell us more about that.)
<br><br></span>Theoretically speaking, it would have been the desperate that left, such as those fleeing from natural catastrophes, enemy invasions or land shortages. Though there may always have been some young bloods that banded together to search for better fortunes even when back home times weren't all that bad, perhaps motivated by what they had seen during their raids of other folks' settlements. Such may have been the case with Saxons haunting the North Sea coast (from Flanders to Northern Britain) for a long time. This may also apply to "exploring" early Swedes that colonized parts of what are now Russia and Ukraine and there came to make up the early ruling class, which doesn't really say anything about their social states back in their homelands. Obviously, those that struck out successfully had power by virtue of mobility, weaponry and battle technique. However, why would aristocrats leave their homelands if in them they own land and dominated people? They probably wouldn't unless there were reasons for
<span style="font-weight: bold;">everyone</span> to leave, or they ran out of people to dominate because the ordinary people left.<br><br>Just musing and mumbling to myself here ...<br><br>Reinhard/Ron<br></div></span>