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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 03 October 2007 - Volume 01</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Song Contest: <a href="http://lowlands-l.net/contest/">lowlands-l.net/contest/</a> (- 31 Dec. 2007)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
========================================================================</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span>
<span id="_user_t.mcrae@uq.net.au" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Tom Mc Rae</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"> <<a href="mailto:t.mcrae@uq.net.au">
t.mcrae@uq.net.au</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2007.10.02 (03) [D/E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">On 03/10/2007, at 1:15 AM, Helen Randall wrote:</div><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><blockquote style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" type="cite">
<span style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
<div>I
remember being very struck when reading Little Men by Louisa M Alcott
when Prof Baer tells Nat who has lied that as a small boy in Germany
his grandmother would take a pair of scissors and snip the end of his
tongue, as a punishment for lying. I had never heard of this punishment
for real in the UK .... except in this rhyme.</div><div>Was it a German punishment .. back in the 19th century? Or even more recently?</div><div>Has anyone heard of it ( or suffered it) in the UK?</div></span></blockquote>
<br></div><div style="font-family: trebuchet ms;">Not as draconian but even in the 1940's a common punishment for UK children caught lying or swearing was washing their</div><div style="font-family: trebuchet ms;">mouths out with soap.
</div><br style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: trebuchet ms;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Regards</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: trebuchet ms;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Tom Mc Rae</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: trebuchet ms;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Brisbane Australia</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: trebuchet ms;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Oh Wad Some Power the Giftie Gie Us</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: trebuchet ms;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Tae See Oorsel's as Ithers See Us</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: trebuchet ms;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Robert Burns</font></p><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: Traditions</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Heather, you asked:</span><br></span><pre style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" id="nonprop">I remember being very struck when reading Little Men by Louisa M Alcott when
<br>Prof Baer tells Nat who has lied that as a small boy in Germany his<br>grandmother would take a pair of scissors and snip the end of his tongue, as<br>a punishment for lying. I had never heard of this punishment for real in the
<br>UK .... except in this rhyme.<br>Was it a German punishment .. back in the 19th century? Or even more<br>recently?</pre><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I've never heard of it outside this particular context and assume it's an aberration. This is not to say that such things would have been totally unheard of in medieval times when corporal punishment was forever seeking new boundaries all over Europe.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Reinhard/Ron</span><br><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br><br></span>
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