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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 06 October 2007 - Volume 04</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Song Contest: <a href="http://lowlands-l.net/contest/">lowlands-l.net/contest/</a> (- 31 Dec. 2007)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
========================================================================</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span>
<span id="_user_veenker@atmc.net" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Ronald Veenker <<a href="mailto:veenker@atmc.net">veenker@atmc.net</a>></span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Names" 2007.10.06 (03) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Ingmar,<br><br>I can't help you with the Yiddish or German derivatives. My only<br>knowledge of the word comes from the comedian/musician of the 1940s,<br>Spike Jones:
<br><br>Posted by ESC on September 12, 2003<br><br>In Reply to: Re: "Googoo Eyes" vs "Google Eyes" posted by ESC on<br>September 11, 2003<br><br>: : I find references to both of these phrases! When is one used versus
<br>the other? Thank you.<br><br>: I am not sure. There's the expression "goo-goo eyes" and then there's<br>a song:<br><br>: Barney Google<br>: by Spike Jones<br><br>: Barney Google, with his goog- goog- googley eyes.
<br>: Barney Google had a wife three times his size.<br>: She sued Barney for divorce<br>: Now he's living with his horse.<br>: Barney Google, with his goog- goog- googley eyes.<br><br>goo-goo eyes - to cast amorous glances at. 1901.
<br>googy eyes - same meaning as goo-goo eyes. 1919<br>google-eyed - 1902-03 Ade "People You Know" 106. The men were all<br>google-eyed.<br><br> From "Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, Volume 1,
<br>A-G" by J.E. Lighter, Random House, New York, 1994.<br><br>That reference didn't have a definition for "google-eyed." But it look<br>to me like "goo-good eyes" are about boy/girl looks and "google-eyed"
<br>is just being wide-eyed and excited about something.<br><br>Ron Veenker<br></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="q"><br>On Saturday, October 6, 2007, at 02:42 PM, Lowlands-L List wrote:<br><br>> From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ingmar.roerdinkholder@WORLDONLINE.NL">ingmar.roerdinkholder@WORLDONLINE.NL</a>><br>> Subject: LL-L "Names" 2007.10.02 (08) [E]<br>>
<br>> Ronald Veenker < <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:veenker@atmc.net">veenker@atmc.net</a>> wrote:<br>> >How interesting, Roland. I'm glad to meet a distant relative. My
<br>> >great grandmother married into the Steketee family in Grand Rapids,<br>> >Michigan. They owned several department stores and furniture stores.<br>> >There are still Steketee stores in the new parts of Grand Rapids.
<br>><br>> That's a coincidence! I wonder how this name "Steketee" is pronounced<br>> over<br>> there, I guess something like ["stEkIdi:]? The original Dutch prono is<br>> ["ste:k@te
:], meaning something like "sticking out (protruding) toe"<br>> ;-)<br>><br>> But I have a different name question: where does the word Google come<br>> from?<br>> I read it was from Googol (a very large number), but there were already
<br>> English words like "goggle" and "googly eyes".<br>> I thought it could be a Yiddish word, something like "guckeln" derived<br>> from a diminutive of German "gucken", but then it would rather
<br>> be "gickeln" of course, which would have given "Giggle".<br>><br>> Ingmar<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="sg">Ronald Veenker<br>"Now and Zen"<br>
623 Ocean Boulevard West<br>Holden Beach, NC 28462-1805<br><br>----------<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_sandy@scotstext.org" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Sandy Fleming</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"> <<a href="mailto:sandy@scotstext.org">sandy@scotstext.org</a>></span><span id="_user_veenker@atmc.net" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Names" 2007.10.06
(03) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q">> From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder < <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ingmar.roerdinkholder@WORLDONLINE.NL">
ingmar.roerdinkholder@WORLDONLINE.NL</a>><br>> Subject: LL-L "Names" 2007.10.02 (08) [E]<br>><br></span></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q">> But I have a different name question: where does the word Google come
<br>> from?<br>> I read it was from Googol (a very large number), but there were<br>> already<br>> English words like "goggle" and "googly eyes".<br>> I thought it could be a Yiddish word, something like "guckeln" derived
<br>> from a diminutive of German "gucken", but then it would rather<br>> be "gickeln" of course, which would have given "Giggle".<br><br></span></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
I believe "Google" must have originally been intended as one of those<br>"suggestive" names, suggesting both the idea of searching with goggles<br>and searching vast amounts (a "googol") of information, though I'm sure
<br>even the entire Internet doesn't contain a googol of bits!<br><br>BTW, don't type the word "Google" into Google, since, as you probably<br>realise, this would break the Internet.<br></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="sg">
<br>Sandy Fleming<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: Names<br><br>Ingmar,<br><br>I can't think of or find any Yiddish word that would suggest a connection.
<br><br>By the way, not all Yiddish dialects have the /u/ -> [i] shift, for instance the Baltic ones (<span style="font-style: italic;">litvak</span> "Lithuanian") that before World War II were considered prestigeous. Those that do have it also shift /o/ (which come from old /a/) to [u], by the way.
<br><br>According to the Wikipedia, the name Google started as a misspelling of "googol." I assume it was a deliberate misspelling, intended to be "suggestive," as Sandy suggested above.<br><br>Regards,
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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victorie.a@home.nl</a>><br>Subject: LL-L "Names"</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="NL">
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<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Moi Leeglaanders,</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Kan iene van oe lui mij ok een hint geven woar as de name
(Kuttschruitter) weg komp?</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Wellicht uut Duutslaand ?</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Arend Victorie</span></font></p>
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