<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 10 October 2007 - Volume 04</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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=========================================================================</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span>
<span id="_user_k9mw@yahoo.com" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Mike Wintzer</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"> <<a href="mailto:k9mw@yahoo.com">
k9mw@yahoo.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2007.10.10 (01) [E/German]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Hi all,</div> <div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Marlou wrote:</div> <div style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
"...die Sprache von
innen heraus wächst; die Nachfrage nach äußeren Strukturen wie
Schulunterricht und Straßenschildern käme dann von selbst. Ist das
jetzt zu romantisch gedacht?"</div> <div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I think it is, but I'd like to know the opinion of others...</div> <div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Kumpelmenten, Mike Wintzer
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<font style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" size="2">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: Language politics
<br><br></font>Folks,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Above, Mike picks out one of Marlou's proposals cum questions, and he wonders what others think about it.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">In order to bring everyone onto the same page, please let me try to rephrase. Marlou wonders if it's too romantic a view to see the language grow from within itself before external structures such as formal education and road signs enter the scene.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Right now my personal view is that both are needed almost simultaneously. One provides the evolving body of material and the other creates an purpose and incentive for this creation and provision. A certain linguistic foundation has to be there to begin with, which could be at least in part a matter of artificial synthesis or just a framework of principles and mechanisms. Writers would then adapt, expand and consolidate this, and this evolving language would be taught in formal education as well, or just its principles if there is supposed to be room for diversity.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">This is what I believe happened in the case of Neo-Norwegian (</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Nynorsk</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">) in Norwegen. This model could work for Low Saxon and Scots.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Also, isn't this what by and large happened in the case of "High" German (Standard German)? There was an element of artificiality in Martin Luther's translation of the Bible into German, into what he envisaged as a neutral or interregional German, picking and choosing from various dialects. In my opinion, he did not create "High" German as such, just had the vision and laid the foundation to which later generations of educators and writers added their parts, and the emerging literary and spoken varieties then influenced each other. Can you imagine the protests if he tried to do this these days?
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">