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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 28 October 2007 - Volume 02</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Song Contest: <a href="http://lowlands-l.net/contest/">lowlands-l.net/contest/</a> (- 31 Dec. 2007)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
========================================================================</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span>
<span id="_user_heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">"<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>"</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Morphology" 2007.10.26
(05) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Ingmar wrote</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I wonder if the popular realisation of -ing as -in' in English may be the <br>key here...<br>and Ron wrote</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I believe that the tendency of making final <span style="font-style: italic;">-ng</span> into <span style="font-style: italic;">-n</span> (and in other dialects into <span style="font-style: italic;">
-nk</span>,
as in Low Saxon) is common and quite old in English, going by spelling
"errors." This could have easily led to overcompensation in the case of
assumed present participial <span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">*</span>-en</span>, very likely analogously to the already existing deverbal noun suffix <span style="font-style: italic;">-ing
</span>.<br><br>I
know what follows is unrelated to verbs HOWEVER we have a farm in the
parish that we can trace back to the 13th century. It was given by the
BIshop to the De Bosco family who changed their name to Att Wode /
Attwood and the farm became known as Woodend.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">However over the years the references to it give us the following spellings:</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Wooden very frequent from 14-19th centuries</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Woodinge only found ( so far) in the 16th century</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Woodin not very frequently</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">and then finally it ended up as Woodend.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Do these differences indicate that </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">a) locals were soundshifting </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">b) were trying very hard to write down what they thought they were hearing/saying </p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">c) the locals weren't trying very hard at all to be consistent</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">d) the locals were following developements that took place elsewhere over this time.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">It applies to Wichenford the village name too. I
soon discovered when searching the national archives that one had to
enter every variation of spelling known. The odder the spelling, the
more likely it was to belong to any early (medieval) document ( or had
been transcribed badly: I found a Wiohenford - clearly a typo!)</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Wytchinford Wytchingford Wicheneford Wichinford Wiceneford Whichingford</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Perhaps we should add here that a large
percentage of English speakers ( especially those using Estuary
English) are incapable to ending some words with an -ing. It is always
unvoiced to -ink 'anythink' nuffink' yet they would not say
'swimmink' or 'goink'. Is there a reason for this?</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From Heather <span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);">[Randall]</span> who has managed to read 11 messages
and save at least 9 of them so far.... and only has 24 more to go. You
lot HAVE been busy this week.</p><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
From: </span><span id="_user_heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">"<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>"</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Morphology" 2007.10.26
(02) [E]</span>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Jonny and Ron were discussing - ing endings</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">English has (of course) amalgamated all these into a single - ing.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">So that the infinitive can be written 'reading aloud' I like reading aloud = I like to read aloud.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">So can the gerund</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Reading aloud is a skill all people should master</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">So can the noun that has been created from the verb.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">The reading of the will took place after the funeral.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I had HUGE problems last year trying to persuade a (30 yr old )
editor that she was wrong to correct what I had written - namely That
the infinitive can be written as ' to read' or 'reading'</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">She insisted the latter could only be described as a gerund and
accordingly edited ( and ruined) a series of PPT lessons on verbs.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I pointed out that a difference in spelling could not make a
difference in function; so if I preferred to say " I like reading
aloud" I wasn't suddenly using a verb + gerund : rather it remained a
verb + infinitive just as if I was saying "I like to read aloud".</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">But she wouldn't agree.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">What does the forum think?</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Heather</p>
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">(Rendall)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: Morphology</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Heather dearest,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I'm on your side, naturally!</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">"Reading" in "I like reading aloud" is an infinitive form in my book (as opposed to a gerund in "They are reading" and "the reading public").
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I would go even farther and say it is a noun, as in "I resent his reading aloud while I am reading silently," where the first is a (infinitive) noun and the second is a gerund.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Kids ...<br><br>As for the names, I think overcompensation in reanalysis may have been at work there, based on awareness of the usual correspondences between local and "official" language features (
<span style="font-style: italic;">-ing = -ink</span> ~ <span style="font-style: italic;">-in</span> ~ <span style="font-style: italic;">-en</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;">-nd</span> = <span style="font-style: italic;">
-n</span>).</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Cheerio!</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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