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<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 29 October 2007 - Volume 06</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Song Contest: <a href="http://lowlands-l.net/contest/">lowlands-l.net/contest/</a> (- 31 Dec. 2007)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">=========================================================================
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <<a href="mailto:ingmar.roerdinkholder@WORLDONLINE.NL">
ingmar.roerdinkholder@WORLDONLINE.NL</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2007.10.28 (01) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Ja en nee. I'm talking about uu [y], but the uu that is normally 'ui' in</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Afrikaans and Dutch in wrds like uit, huis etc., but not is several</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Afrikaans varieties where it is uut, huus etc. So no diphthong here. But
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">the same variety does have Afrikaans y / Dutch ij in words like kyk, sy</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
etc, and not ie. In Dutch dialects, it is ij + ui, or ie + uu, but not one</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">diphthong and one monophthong.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">So my topic had nothing to do with "ontronding" as in Afr ui => y or uu =></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
ie...</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Groete</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Ingmar</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Maria Elsie Zinsser het geskryf</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">So Ingmar, you are simply talking about the long u, IPA [y:]?</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">As in nuut, akuut?</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Not sure why you referred to diftonge, dan, as these
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">are quite separate from diphtongs.</span><br><br>----------<br><br>From: <span id="_user_jonny.meibohm@arcor.de" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">
jonny</span><span style="font-weight: normal;" class="lg"> <<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span><br>Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2007.10.28 (04) [E/L]<br><br><div>
<span><font size="4">Beste
Ingemar,</font></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span><font size="4">Du
schjreyvest:</font></span></div>
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<div><span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> </span></span><span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">En sjpeelde
'n fanfaar heel fijn:</span></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span><font size="4">Is dat kr'ekt?:</font><font color="#008000" face="Arial"> </font></span><font face="Arial"><font color="#008000"><strong>sjpeelde</strong></font> </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><span><font size="4">edders schull dat woll
'spjeelde' waar'n?</font></span></div>
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<div align="left">Allerbest!</div>
<div align="left"> </div>
Jonny Meibohm<br>
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