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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 06 November 2007 - Volume 02
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Song Contest: <a href="http://lowlands-l.net/contest/">lowlands-l.net/contest/</a> (- 31 Dec. 2007)</span>
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">
Paul Finlow-Bates</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Genealogy" 2007.11.05 (04) [E]<br></span><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div><div class="Ih2E3d">From:<span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);"> Paul Tatum</span> <span><<a href="mailto:ptatum@blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank"> ptatum@blueyonder.co.uk</a>></span><br>Subject: LL-L "Genealogy"
2007.11.04 (01) [D/E]<br><br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">But I think I've heard that it was still celtic
speaking in east anglia<br>when saint Guthlac was travelling there, despite Raedwald et al. do the<br>dark ages count as medieval? I'm very doubtful about how much we <br>actually know of our history at this time, our sources seem to be late
<br>and mostly contradicted by archaeology, though the old adage about<br>absence of evidence (eg of invasion :) is not evidence of absence applies.<br><br>TTFN, Paul Tatum.</div><div> <div>**********************************************************************
<div>Seems
unlikely, other than perhaps a few pockets; the missionary activity
afer all was aimed at the Germanic pagans; the celtic speakers were
Christians anyway. <div> <div>True we can never know for certain,
but that argument cuts both ways; and I'm not sure I'd agree that
sources are "mostly contradicted by archaeology"; the archaeology tends
to be rejected if it doesn't fit a popular model. The current popular
flavour regarding archaeological evidence of Germanic settlement is
that Celtic artifacts prove Celtic peoples, Germanic artifacts
prove Celtic peoples who were pretending to be Germans. The same
apparently applies to language. <div><font color="#888888"> <div>Paul Finlow-Bates</div></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span>
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">
<span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"><a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk
</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">
LL-L "Genealogy" 2007.11.05 (04) [E]<br></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Paul Tatum</span> wrote
</p><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> I'm very doubtful about how much we </span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
actually know of our history at this time, our sources seem to be late</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">and mostly contradicted by archaeology, though the old adage about</span>
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">absence of evidence (eg of invasion :) is not evidence of absence applies.</span><br></div><br>I
think you are probably very right! And for every definite statement
about history, someone can produce evidence or suggestion of the
opposite or something else! So perhaps I should ahve left it as -
lincoln is on the east coast. At least that is something to be sure
about!</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">As I am a great 'Eccles' fan, I shouldn't have used the expression 'solidly germanic'.</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">['eccles' is
usually thought to be derived from eglwys = Celtic for church and
therefore an indication of a strong enough celtic christian community
to 'survive' any invasion / overwhelming/ foreign immigration / upper
take-over. And there are plenty of Eccles on the east coast!</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Heather [Randall]</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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