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Mike Wintzer</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:k9mw@yahoo.com">k9mw@yahoo.com</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.08 (05)<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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jonny</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.08 (05)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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<div><span>Beste
Heiko,</span></div>
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<div><span>Du
schreyvst:</span></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
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<div><span>> De Krink Stormarn hett
tosamen mit de Fehrs-Gill de plattdüütschen Naams för<br>> de Öörd in Stormarn
fastleggt, dormit de op de Oortsschiller kamen köönt.</span></div></div>
<div><span>Gradoleyr ouk! Nu
waard 't woll draod weller Wiinach'en! Is dat ne greesig?
"Fastleggt"(!!!???) foyr de Eywigkeyt, wa? De Oul'n schöllt sick woll in jemmer
Groyv mennigmool üm-dreyhen, wenn 's dat tou seyh'n kriigt.</span></div>
<div><span>Man goud, watt 'ck
door ne leeben un' doud-bliiben mutt...</span></div>
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<div align="left">Allerbest<span> Wünschers, nu all!</span></div>
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<div align="left">Jonny
Meibohm</div></div>
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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: Language politics<br><br>[English below]<br><br>Heiko un annere Lüüd',<br><br>Ik heff mi de List ankäken un will geern wäten, of de Naams altohoop "natüürlich" (or "echt") sünd or of daar welk mit bi sünd, de wen allerlest tohoopklamüstert hett. Or geev' dat daar wat to köörn, vun wägen dat Woord "fastleggt"?
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Na Jonny sien Reakschoon baven to oordeeln lett dat meist, as weern de Naams nich echt. Sülven kann ik dat nich seggen, wiel dat ik vun de daar lüttern Öörd' nich vääl afwäten do. Liekers nähm ik stark an, dat de Minschen daar ook "platt" snackt or maal "platt" snackt harrn, un daar wägen schull een ook annähmen, dat 't "platte" Naams gifft.
<br><br>Klaar doot wi altohoop wäten, dat "fastleggt" niks mit "Ewigkeit" to doon hett, liek as offitschelle düütsche un annere Oordsnaams nich up Ewigkeit fastleggt sünd.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br>Folks, Heiko drew our attention to the news that the North German municipality of Stormarn will have bilingual place signs and has published a list of German places and their Low Saxon equivalents. I took a look at the list and am asking if all of the LS place names are "Although I have heard of most of these places I am not familiar enough with them to be able to answer this question myself. However, I am intrigued enough by Jonny's acerbic reaction above to wonder what's the deal. It seems as though he objects to the word
<i>fastleggt</i> 'determined', 'decided', with reference to these names, which, I must admit, sounds a bit as though they were invented or as though there were many variants to choose from. (I have in mind choices like Scots "Edinburrie" ~ "Embra" ~ "Embro", and "Glesga" ~ "Glesca".) If official choices among existing variants were made, would this be acceptable or unacceptable?
<br><br>I have to admit that the information and Jonny's reaction leave me with more questions than they answer.<br><br>Kumpelmenten,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br><br></span>