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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.09 (01) [E]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> From: jonny <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> <mailto:</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">
jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Subject: LL-L "Language politics"
2007.11.08 (06)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Beste Mike,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Du schreyvst:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> > HURRAY!!!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Perhaps you didn't realize what this action means.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> According to the list of place names Heiko had sent there are about 50</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> villages to re-name (why not more?). That makes 100 plates which have</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> to be demounted, to be labeled and enameled newly and then to be
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> re-mounted again. According to our local 'Straßenmeisterei' (road</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> maintenance staff) it makes about 3,000 EURO per each- in summary</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> 300,000 EURO. And that for just the doubtful change of one letter?!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Couldn't this money be spend for better destinations?
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> What the heck is the difference between e.g. 'Lütjensee' and</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> 'Lüttensee'? Ridiculous, isn't it? "Eine echte deutsche Amtsposse (a
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> 'bureaucratic coup de farce')- Schilda (pun intended) lässt grüßen!"</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> After generations of foreign geometers, half-analphabetical
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> 'Amtsschreibern' (communal clerks) now we meet the generation of</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> non-native people to arrogate themselves, as a sovereign act of</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> the provincial government ('fastleggen'), to fog continuously grown</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> structures.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> And how should it be run in Northern Frisia? As far as I know some
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> villages there have, besides their official German name, a Danish, a</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> North Frisian and a Low Saxon one. New Babylon!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> And- as Ron mentioned if I understand him correctly- there should be</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> really existing, still used Low Saxon names. If not, why to invent</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> them? For what reason if the people, the inhabitants themselves don't</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> use or even never have heard them? Just to bedevil the tourists ;-)?
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> I cannot imagine at all that this kind of an administrative act should</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> be useful for the sake of LS.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Allerbest!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Jonny Meibohm</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> From: Karl-Heinz Lorenz <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:Karl-Heinz.Lorenz@gmx.net">Karl-Heinz.Lorenz@gmx.net</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> <mailto:</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:Karl-Heinz.Lorenz@gmx.net">Karl-Heinz.Lorenz@gmx.net</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
>></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.08 (05) [LS]</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Liebe Freunde zweisprachiger Ortstafeln!</span>
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Dear friends of bilingual topographic names!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Habt ihr bei den Bemühungen um zweisprachige Ortstafeln nicht manchmal</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Angst davor, unfreiwillig zur Minderheit im eigenen Land zu werden?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Die meisten Ortsnamen und sonstigen topographischen Namen in</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Norddeutschland sind doch gemischt hoch- und niederdeutsch, man sollte
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> sich da nichts vormachen. Und so schlecht ist das doch nicht, ganz im</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Gegenteil. Für mich sind sie ohnehin eher nieder- als hochdeutsch.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Beispielsweise verwendet man in den offiziellen Ortsnamen dieses</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Kreises zwar offensichtlich einheitlich -dorf statt -dörp,
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> andererseits -bek statt -bach, "-wohld" statt "-wald", "-hoop" statt</span>
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> "-haufen", "-have" statt "hafen", "Lütje-" statt "Klein-"
u.ä.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Wenn ich mir die Liste</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> </span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://www.kreis-stormarn.de/kreis/gemeinden/AlphabetischeListe.html" target="_blank">http://www.kreis-stormarn.de/kreis/gemeinden/AlphabetischeListe.html
</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> genau ansehe, dann ist es doch zumindest denkbar, dass als</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Gegenreaktion rein hochdeutsche Namen angedacht werden, wie zb. Bad
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Altenlohe, Barssiedel, Bruch, Brunsbach (Braunbach), Grünwald,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Heidekampf, Heilshaufen, Jersbach, Lasbach, Kleinsee, Münchhagen,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Neuwald, Oststeinbach, Reinbach, Siech, Zangstadt, Tremssiedel, Witzhafen.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> The topograghic names in this part((Kreis [=district] Stormarn) and</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> also in other parts of Northern Germany are actually partly High</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> German, partly Low German/Saxon. For example they use HG "-dorf"
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> instead of "-dörp" on the other hand LG/LS "-bek" instead of "bach".</span>
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> The consequent divide of High- and Low-German/Saxon names could result</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> in a involuntarily linguistic and ethnic separation and lead the
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> declared Low-German/Saxon into a minority status in their own land!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Examples:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> official name: Ammersbek (allegedly HG, in fact LG/LS!)
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> proposed LS: Ammersbeek (only a orthographic adjustment)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> "real" HG and so a possible backlash: Ammersbach</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> official: Bad Oldesloe (again: this is rather LG/LS than High German!)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> LS proposal: Bad Oschloe</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> HG backlash: Bad Altenlohe
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> In a HG reaction of purism also "-büttel" consequently would be</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> replaced by something like "-siedel" (you discussed these words
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> before), "-wohld" by "-wald", "-have" by "-hafen"</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> (Witzhave/Witzhafen), "Braak" would be "Bruch", "Heilshoop" -</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> "Heilshaufen", "Mönkhagen" - "Münchhagen", "Tangstedt" - "Zangstadt"</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> etc (see above).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Hence the mixed Low- /High-German names are not that bad, methinks.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Regards</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Karl-Heinz</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Dat deit mi düchtig argern, wenn ik so'n Schiet to lesen krieg. Jonny un
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Karl-Heinz, wat ji dor schreven hebbt, dat is Scheiße (Schiet is veel to</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">nett). Deit mi leed, wenn ik dat so seggen mutt.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Wat is passeert?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">En poor Lüüd hebbt sik de Möh maakt un hebbt de plattdüütschen Naams vun</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">de Öörd in'n Kreis Stormarn vullstännig tohoopsammelt. Vördem kunnst</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
disse Naams narms finnen.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Worüm hebbt se dat daan?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">As Vörarbeit, dat dat lichter vun'e Hand geiht, wenn se sik för</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
plattdüütsche Naams op Oortsschiller insetten doot.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Dor is gornix 'fastleggt' worrn, denn de Lüüd, de dat sammelt hebbt, de
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">höört to de Fehrs-Gill un to'n Sleswigsch-Holsteenschen Heimatbund. De</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">sünd nich vun Staat un Obrigkeit, dat sünd jüstso'n Lüüd as wi, de en</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
beten vun jemeer Freetiet hergeven doot un sik ut Freid un 'Leevd to de</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Spraak' mit dat Plattdüütsche befaten doot. Jüst as bi di, leve Jonny,
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">is dat jemeer Mudderspraak. Un wenn bi jo ok blot en Funken vun "assume</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">good faith" vörhannen is, denn köönt ji doch woll kuum dor an denken,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
dat disse Lüüd sik de Naams utdenken doot!?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Disse Lüüd hebbt jüstso as ji Frünnen un Bekannte, hebbt Kontakt to de
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Minschen. De leevt in kene Fantasiewelt. In all de 109 Dörper, de in de</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">List opdükern doot, dor gifft dat noch Lüüd, de Platt as Mudderspraak</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
snacken doot, dor köönt ji vun utgahn. Un de Lüüd vun Fehrs-Gill un</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Sleswigsch-Holsteenschen Heimatbund hebbt sik de Möh maakt, hebbt in all
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">disse 109 Dörper anropen oder Breev schreven, oder wat weet ik, se hebbt</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">mit de Lüüd snackt, wat bruukt ji op Platt för en Naam för joon Dörp, wo</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
deet ji dat schrieven un so wieder. Dat is en Barg Arbeit. Disse Arbeit</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">hebbt sik de Lüüd maakt. 109 Öörd. Un dor hebbt se denn de List vun
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">maakt. Wo argdenkern mutt een wesen, dat dor Kritik afgeven warrt?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Good, Heiko hett dat Woort 'fastleggt' en beten unvörsichtig bruukt. He</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
harr man beter 'sammelt' seggt. Aver dor bruukst doch nich so'n Fatt vun</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">apen maken, oder? Jonny, mit dien utverschaamt aggressive Wöör hest du
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard un sogor Yasuji Waki in't feerne Japan glöven laten, dat dor</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Schiet maakt warrt mit de Naams in Stormarn.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">'Fastleggt' hebbt se de Naams tominnst sowied, dat se sik op een
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Schrievwies fastleggt hebbt. Wenn wi hier vun Schrievwies snackt, denn</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">hett dat nich mit Gewalt un Anpassen an een Norm to doon, dat heet man</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
blot, dat nich dat ene Dörp Noordwoold heten deit un dat Naverdörp</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Süüdwohld un dat drüdde Westwold. Dat is allens, wat se dor an disse
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Naams villicht an ännert hebbt. Ans is allens 'Natur'.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Un wat Karl-Heinz schrifft, kunn allens ok ut'n Mund vun en ganz</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
engsteernten Hoochdüütschen-un-ans-nix kamen. En Woort oder Naam is nich</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Deel vun en Spraak na Luudform, en Woort oder Naam is Deel vun en Spraak
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">na Gebruuk. Wenn ik op Hoochdüütsch 'Browser' seggen do, denn is dat</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">keen engelsch Woort, denn is dat en hoochdüütsch Woort, dat ut dat</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Engelsche övernahmen is.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> > Wenn ich mir die Liste [..] genau ansehe, dann ist es doch zumindest</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">denkbar, dass als Gegenreaktion rein hochdeutsche Namen angedacht werden</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Nä!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Tüdelkraam dat. Lütjensee is hoochdüütsch, dor bitt de Muus keen Enn vun</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">af. Dat de Naam ut dat Plattdüütsche stammt ännert dor nix an. Un wenn</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
de Oort nu op Platt hüdigendaags Lüttensee heet, denn schall disse Naam</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ünnerdükert warrn, denn he is ja man blot een Bookstaven wied weg vun
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">dat Hoochdüütsche?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
not distinct enough to coexist, oder wat?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Gah mi dor vun af.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888"><br>Marcus Buck<br></font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">