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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 25 November 2007 - Volume 04
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">
Global Moose Translations</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:globalmoose@t-online.de">globalmoose@t-online.de</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.25 (03) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">
<div><font color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Heiko
wrote:</span></font></div>
<div><span>> Where I live, this
would mean changing the ending -hausen to -husen in many<br>> names and then
putting up both on a sign, which I consider utterly<br>> pointless (and so do
all the older, Platt-speaking people around here that <br>> I asked about
it).<br>Well, Gabriele,
you are free to think so. But as long as there are people who<br>want these road signs (which
obviously is the case), this does not count<br>much. Bilingual road signs are a
right for those who want them. If there is a<br>majority against these, this
does not count as majority wishes do not count <br>when it comes to the protection
of minorities.</span></div>
<div><span></span> </div></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>I see... again, it all boils
down to some people cramming their political agendas down the throats of
those who would rather get on with their lives...</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Just think of what those stupid
signs would cost, and what else could be done with the money and natural
resources.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Where I live, several villages
have put up their own wooden signs, with the name of the place and a greeting in
Lower Saxon (OUR local variety and spelling, not what some non-local
activists would have us use). We don't need bureaucrats to tell us how to handle
this. It's all about power in the end, isn't it?</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>So when the majority of people
who actually speak Lower Saxon (which appears to be the minority we are talking
about) think that those "official" signs are rubbish, they no longer count as a
minority, and those few people who think it is a good idea should have
their way simply because there's fewer of them?</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Actually, people around here are
very actively keeping their language alive these days. All by themselves, and
with no guidance from those who would like to be seen as "saviours" of the
language. And they do it for love, not power.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Gabriele
Kahn<br><br>----------<br><br></span>From: <span class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk
</a>></span></span> <br>Subject: <span class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.25 (01) [E]<br><br></span><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 102);">From: Global Moose Translations <span><
<a href="mailto:globalmoose@t-online.de" target="_blank">globalmoose@t-online.de</a>></span> <br>Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.24 (06) [E]<br><br>.....<span>The natives know what to call their village all right - isn't that enough?
</span><br><span>......</span><span>Between
High German and Low Saxon, it is usually just a matter of
pronunciation, I don't know a single case where two completely
different names are used.</span></div> <div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 102);"><span></span><span></span> </div> <div><span>Gabriele Kahn</span></div><br> And
if Germany is anything at all like England, whatever an outsider says
will be wrong anyway, and will be gleefully corrected! Re-spelling
Kibworth as "Kibbuth", Haltcliff as "Oockly" and Uttoxeter as "Utticka"
would not only confuse outsiders, it would spoil the locals' fun.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Paul Finlow-Bates</font><br><br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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