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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 25 November 2007 - Volume 05
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Song Contest: <a href="http://lowlands-l.net/contest/">lowlands-l.net/contest/</a> (- 31 Dec. 2007)</span>
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">
Paul Finlow-Bates</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Resources" 2007.11.25 (02) [E]<br><br></span> <span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2007.11.24 (09) [E]<br><br>Roger and Reinhard,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Thanks
for the info on the Rhine area speech, always interesting to hear the
variety that's out there. They obviously don't use it with foreigners
though, everyone I spoke to in Cologne and surrounds (Bergische Land)
seemed to use Standard German, so I naturally assumed that was what
they spoke. Germany, and much of Europe, seems much more bilingual in
that respect than England. People with regional accents and dialects
make little attempt to "standardise" for foreigners, and virtually none
at all for other Britons.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888"><br>Paul Finlow-Bates</font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br><br>----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">
sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="lDACoc"></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: Language varieties</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br><br>Hi, Paul!<br><br>People don't use anything but Standard German with outsiders if they can help it, or they will use the outsider's language if they know it.
<br><br>To some degree this applies in England also (substitute "English" for "German"), though there will always be "accents." However, unlike in Britain, speaking non-standard language has not yet received the general nod of approval. The results of indoctrination of the ideal of "one country - one ethnicity - one language" have a long way to go on their way out, especially with regard to languages that are obviously related to German. This indoctrination has affected native speakers and their descendants as much as those that grew up with German only. This is not going to go away terribly quickly, especially in more conservative-dominated communities that have a culture of rejecting change (
<u>any</u> change) because to them "change" is synonymous with "outsiders' meddling." So if you ask people to speak to you in their local language, many will find this very strange, because they have come to believe that their language is private and improper, that you as an outsider should not be involved in it. When a foreigner, especially an "exotic-looking" one, speaks "dialect," many people will point this out as an amusing anomaly.
<br><br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br></span>
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