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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 26 November 2007 - Volume 01
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">
Paul Finlow-Bates</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language varieties" 2007.11.25 (07) [E]<br><br></span><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
From: <span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Luc Hellinckx</span> <span><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com" target="_blank">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span> <br>Subject: LL-L "Language varieties"<br>
<br>Beste Ron,<br><br>You wrote:<br>> To some degree this applies in England also (substitute "English" for<br>> "German"), though there will always be "accents." However, unlike in<br>
> Britain, speaking non-standard language has not yet received the <br>> general nod of approval.<br><br>The general nod of approval in the UK? This makes me wonder what kind of<br>English, British teachers use in school.
<br><br>Standard or not??? <br><br>Kind greetings,<br><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888"><br>Luc Hellinckx</font><br><br>----------<br><br>From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">
sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><span></span> <br>Subject: Language varieties<br><br>Hi, Luc!<br><br>As
far as I know -- and our British friends no doubt will correct me if
I'm wrong -- the educational system in British was tweaked quite some
time ago to be more tolerant with regard to local and regional language
varieties. In other words, teachers no longer correct students (pupils)
at every turn but permit use of local varieties. You will notice that
even media reporters' language comes in quite some variety, as does the
English of people interviewed, why, even that of members of the House
of Commons. You are not necessarily considered poorly educated by
everyone if you don't speak "posh," and not speaking "posh" may even
allow you to win more hearts. You may have noticed (even though you may
be too young) that class distinctions and stigmas are melting away in
Britain, and the more relaxed linguistic atmosphere may well be one of
the signs of this. <br><br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br></blockquote> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">BBC
journalist David Dimbleby, in a recent program about landscape
painting, dug out some old footage of himself and friends rock-climbing
in the Lake District in the 1950's, with his voice-over. He mocked his
own accent of that time, the accepted BBC nasal "upper class", which
almost nobody speaks anymore. The Queen herself speaks completely
differently from the time of the Coronation. The most notable thing is
the "a" sound in words such as <em>hat</em> or <em>cat</em>, which "Upper Class" people once pronounced <em>het</em> and <em>cet</em>.
The vowel has moved back to the Northern position. Ironically the sound
was shared with "Lower Class" Cockneys and Londoners in general - who
largely retain it, along with most Australians and New Zealanders.</div><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888"> <div> </div> <div>Paul Finlow-Bates</div></font> <br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><span></span> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: Language varieties<br><br>Thanks, Paul.<br><br>I have noticed marked changes in the ways the Queen and several of her family members speak. Old footage is indeed a great way of being reminded of it. There seem to have been several phases or stages. (Remember the "pound" [p_haMnd] or [p_haInd] phases?) This makes me wonder if this is a case of "natural" evolution or of periodic coaching.
<br><br>Aside from, or rather concurrent with the relaxation in education, there have been the influences of the media in which plays feature "real" varieties of "real" people from all over the country. I'm sure this has been removing quite a few prejudices and inhibitions, and more people may have begun to actually appreciate this type of diversity as interesting and enriching.
<br><br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br><br></span>
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