<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 09 December 2007 - Volume 03
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">
Sandy Fleming</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:sandy@scotstext.org">sandy@scotstext.org</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Holidays" 2007.12.08 (03) [E/S]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">> From: R. F. Hahn <
<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Subject: Holidays<br><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">> An nou a speir fer our Scottish feres an feresses: Whit kin o bodie or
<br>> craitur luik the gate o yer wee yins on Yule, Pace an mibbie ither<br>> hoalidays, an whit are the ongauns (tradeetion-lik)?<br><br></div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">As faur as I ken, we juist haes Santae Claus for Christmas, gey like the
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">American ane (in England they for ornar says "Father Christmas" but we</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">dinna uize that).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
I think in Scotland Christmas wisna celebrate tradeetional, an's juist</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">taen fae English or Continental praticks. I'v says it afore, that in oor
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">veelage in Scotland the schuil records shows 1917 as the year the bairns</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">wis first gien a holiday on Christmas day, sae it micht be that the idea</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
wis brocht back bi sodgers fae WWI.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">There disna seem tae be ony bogles or demi-gods associate wi the New
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Year or Pasche. Yiblins faurer back, but I hinna heard o them.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888"><br>Sandy Fleming<br><a href="http://sctostext.org/" target="_blank">http://sctostext.org/</a><br><br>----------<br><br></font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Sandy Fleming</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:sandy@scotstext.org">sandy@scotstext.org
</a>><br></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Holidays" 2007.12.07 (08) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">
sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Subject: Holidays</span>
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> Of course I had to gild the lily. (How could I have failed to do so?)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> I proposed instead of "Santa Fangs" the name "Santa Jaws." Not only
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> does this rhyme with the counterpart's name but it also goes with the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> emergence and disappearance of the Anti-Claus via a sink's or</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> bathtub's drain (or was it perhaps the toilet?).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> I took a quick survey, and the result is two for "Fangs" and two for</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> "Jaws."</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> At any rate, I suggest we quickly trademark or copyright the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> respective names, because I smell the makings of a dark (goth?)
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> children's book.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Though kind of already done in the shape of the Futurama Robot Santa :)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">
<br>Sandy Fleming<br><a href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a><br><br><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">----------</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></font><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Wesley Parish</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wes.parish@paradise.net.nz">
wes.parish@paradise.net.nz</a>></span><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"></span><span class="lDACoc"><br>
</span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Holidays" 2007.12.07 (08) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br>
</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I did plan a children's book on Satan Fangs back in the nineties, when I was</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
boarding at my friend's place ... indeed, my friend and landlady was much in</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">support of my doing so. But, I never got around to it. Back then I thought
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I'd need to do the pictures myself; apparently children's publishers get</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">professional artists to do that sort of thing, but I didn't know that then.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ron, it's an object case in "Why Radio Stations Ought Not To Play Stupid</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Christmas Songs" - we listen to radio stations for the silly love songs, not</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">the stupid Christmas songs. There was a song by Dolly Parton with the
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">phrase "I believe in Santa Claus" - and I couldn't resist ... ;)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Do you know anyone who might take such a venture on? A dark, gothic</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">children's horror generally has a hard time getting to market, mostly because</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
they scare the publishers with the idea that they'd scare the parents with</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">the idea that they'd scare the children ... The original Grimm's Tales and a
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">good many of the French folk tales were rather graphically gory, ditto for</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">the Russian and Yugoslavian and many of the Arabic ... it was the Victorians</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
who bowdlerized Maui, not the Maori ... he was told that Hine Nui Te Po - the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Goddess of Death - had obsidian teeth where men enter her - of course when
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">she woke and closed her legs, he died -, and I never read about that little</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">feature in the many variants of the story I read as a child ... ;)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">But I've had a Santa Fangs story floating around what passes for my mind these</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
days, for 12 years. I may as well make use of it. ;)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
And thanks for telling my tale. I'm pleased it found such a positive</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">reaction. I think Santa Fangs has a slightly more shock value than Santa
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Jaws, but that's just my opinion.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Wesley Parish</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
On Saturday 08 December 2007 19:04, Lowlands-L List wrote:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><snip></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">> From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Subject: Holidays
<br>><br></div><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Wes, you old rascal,<br>><br>> I very much enjoyed your description of the Anti-Claus: Santa Fang, the
<br>> antipodean antithesis of the jolly old man most of us were made to<br>> anticipate (unless we were Jewish, in which case we of course anticipated<br>> the Hanukkah Armadillo so ably portrayed in the American sitcom *Friends*
<br>> by Ross when he tried to warm his estranged son's heart to his paternal<br>> Mosaic heritage but all the costume rental place had left was an armadillo<br>> outfit).<br>><br>> Wes, I hope you don't mind that I ran your engaging story by three friends
<br>> and a grocery store checkout person (who reported having been tailgated by<br>> Santa Claus in a Jaguar earlier in the day). It may please you to know that<br>> all four of these persons approved (unless they thought I was not only
<br>> insane but also dangerous and would have said anything to get rid of me).<br></div><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">><br>> Of course I had to gild the lily. (How could I have failed to do so?) I
<br>> proposed instead of "Santa Fangs" the name "Santa Jaws." Not only does this<br>> rhyme with the counterpart's name but it also goes with the emergence and<br>> disappearance of the Anti-Claus via a sink's or bathtub's drain (or was it
<br>> perhaps the toilet?).<br>><br>> I took a quick survey, and the result is two for "Fangs" and two for<br>> "Jaws."<br>><br>> At any rate, I suggest we quickly trademark or copyright the respective
<br>> names, because I smell the makings of a dark (goth?) children's book.<br>><br></div><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> Cheerio!<br>> Reinhard/Ron
</div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id="1fgx" class="ArwC7c ckChnd"><br>--<br>Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish<br>-----<br>Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are
<br>impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla<br>warfare means up to their monkey tricks.<br>Extracts from "Schoolboy Howlers" - the collective wisdom<br>of the foolish.<br>-----<br>Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
<br>You ask, what is the most important thing?<br>Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.<br>I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">
sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: Holidays</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Thanks, Sandy and Wes!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Sandy, A see. Lang syne the puir wee yins in Scotland had anerly Hogmanay tae bide fer in wintertyde.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Wes, I do think the world is ready for Santa Fangs. Children love to be scared. Today's grandparents are Baby Boomers that once rocked the boat.<br><br>Much depends on how you package it. Is it only good Santa v bad Santa? Or does Fang have redeeming qualities he keeps secret in order to protect his bad-ass image? Why, the message could even be uplifting!
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Think of the success of some "scary" children's books such as
</span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Where the Wild Things Are</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> by Maurice Sendak (German translation: </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Wo die wilden Kerle wohnen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">, French translation: </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Max et les maximonstres</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
, Hebrew translation: ארץ יצורי הפרא).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> You just have to be persistent, not be discouraged too early but to keep pushing.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">My suggestions:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<ul style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><li>Get the concept and contents together in writing.</li><li>Write a promotional summary.</li><li>Run it all by friends that give you honest opinions and good suggestions.
<br></li><li>Check out children's books at your local library and find publishers most likely to go with your idea. Then contact them.</li><li>Send promising literary agents the summary, your vision and wishes, a part of the text, and a suggested shortlist of publishers. (If any of them asks for a retainer, drop him or her right there.)
<br></li></ul><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">You could also look around which illustrators' works you like, and just write to them, or at least mention their names to potential agents and publishers.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Research, networking and persistence are fundamental requirements. Don't allow rejection to discourage you!
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Best of luck!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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