<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 10 January 2008 - Volume 01
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">
Elsie Zinsser</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language education" 2008.01.10 (02) [E]<br></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Hi all,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Marcel, as I do not have a television set, I have no idea
whether Kids Newsroom was ever broadcasted in Afrikaans.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Judging from the total lack of complete Afrikaans children programmes,
I suspect not. <span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">The excuse by your ambassador of adequate social networks for
coloured and white kids is a false assumption. The following article indicates that
Afrikaans-speaking coloured kids in the rural Western Cape are in dire need for
educational programmes in Afrikaans. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><i><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-style: italic;"><a href="http://web.uct.ac.za/depts/praesa/OPaper14.PDF" target="_blank">
<font color="black"><span style="color: black; text-decoration: none;">The Rise and
Possible Demise of Afrikaans as a Public Language</span></font></a> - </span></font></i></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><u><font color="blue" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: blue;">http://<a href="http://www.uct.ac.za/depts/praesa/OPaper14.PDF" target="_blank">www.uct.ac.za/depts/praesa/OPaper14.PDF
</a></span></font></u></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">You can view the TV programming content of SABC 1, SABC 2 and
SABC 3 on their respective websites at <a href="http://www.sabc1.co.za/" target="_blank">www.sabc1.co.za</a>
/ <a href="http://www.sabc2.co.za/" target="_blank">www.sabc2.co.za</a> / <a href="http://www.sabc3.co.za/" target="_blank">www.sabc3.co.za</a> </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Only SABC 2 provides Afrikaans content. </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">I watched a supposedly educational programme on TV with my
grandson the other day and was very confused.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Different animal characters -complete with costumes of a dog
or a piggy- presented their individual lines in Sotho, English, Tswana, and even
a word or two in Afrikaans! In other words, there is no coherence and no complete
informational package is presented in any language group. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-weight: normal;">Why only English? It is not a secret that the government,
in its attempt to compete globally, is driving towards a </span></font></b></span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-weight: normal;">single public language. It was widely believed that mother
tongue education is not that essential but the continuous drop in school pass
rates since 1994, has prompted educationists to review the need for mother
tongue education beyond primary education. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></b></span></h2>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-weight: bold;"><span> </span></span></font></b></span><span><font color="black" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">More info on TV:</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Violence
in children's programmes</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://libserv5.tut.ac.za:7780/pls/eres/wpg_docload.download_file?p_filename=F347492673/pretorius.pdf" target="_blank">
http://libserv5.tut.ac.za:7780/pls/eres/wpg_docload.download_file?p_filename=F347492673/pretorius.pdf</a></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">About Kids
Newsroom (from SABC 2) </span></font></span></p>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-weight: normal;"><a href="http://vcmstatic.sabc.co.za/VCMStaticProdStage/CORPORATE/SABC%20Corporate/Document/unilever.pdf" target="_blank">
http://vcmstatic.sabc.co.za/VCMStaticProdStage/CORPORATE/SABC%20Corporate/Document/unilever.pdf</a><span></span></span></font></b></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-weight: normal;" lang="FR"> </span></font></b></span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-weight: normal;" lang="FR">Regards,</span></font></b></span>
</h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-weight: normal;" lang="FR">Elsie Zinsser</span></font>
</b></span><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="FR"></span></font></span></h2>
<div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From: </span></font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Marcel Bas <<a href="mailto:roepstem@hotmail.com" target="_blank">roepstem@hotmail.com </a>></span><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black"> </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
Subject: <span>LL-L "Language education" 2008.01.09 (05)
[AE]</span></font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
Hi Elsie,</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
You wrote about the television programmes: "which tends to broadcast
mixed-language </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
kiddie shows"</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
Can you tell me if Kid's Newsroom also broadcasts in Afrikaans? They used to
broadcast in Xhosa, Zulu, Venda, Tswana (among others) and in English, but <i><i>not</i></i>
in Afrikaans. </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
I went to the embassy back in May to talk (and complain) about this
language discrimination. The embassador said that there is no reason
why the show is not aired in Afrikaans when it is aired in English. She said
this because the main argument for the discrimination of Afrikaans is that
social networks of Afrikaans speakers (both coloured and white) are more intact
that those of black peoples in rural areas. These kids need news and
information on where to go to when they are in need. Children in
black communities usually only speak their own language, so the show
has to be broadcast in one of the African languages. So why is it aired in
English, then?</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
So she could make a plan with people from the SABC. What's more, Kid's
Newsroom was financed by a Dutch organisation, Free Voice. I think that the
least that we can expect from a Dutch organisation is that it supports the
promotion of Afrikaans.</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
So is the show in Afrikaans, or is the language still being ignored?</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
Best regards,</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
Marcel.</font><br></div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br>----------<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">
<span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Elsie Zinsser</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language education"
2008.01.10 (06) [E]</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;"><br></span></font></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi all,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Thanks,
Gael, for the web resources.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Regards,<br>Elsie
Zinsser</span></font></span></p><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">
</font>
<p style="margin-left: 36pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i><font color="black" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-style: italic;">For
Elsie </span></font></i><font color="black" size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">[India is moving beyond
the problem you're describing… perhaps]</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 36pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black;">1. <a href="http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=neTLI2lvdBYC&oi=fnd&pg=RA1-PA45&dq=STAR+%22Transnational+television,+cultural+identity%22&ots=W6RbFNKMys&sig=xRZ0lyuXcgrdryy2piaaclZkZdk" target="_blank">
<font color="#0000cc"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">Transnational
Television, Cultural Identity and Change: When Star Came to India</span></font></a>
(2003)-by Melissa Butcher—google-book</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black;">2. [DOC] <a href="http://www-edit.usyd.edu.au/riap/documents/publications/upocc_jisjuly04_final.doc" target="_blank">
Cultural Change: Reflections on the Identity Strategies of
Indian</a> and Australian youth (2006)…-by Melissa Butcher- <a href="http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:cDeIXMryTPYJ:www-edit.usyd.edu.au/riap/documents/research/tcc/upocc_jisjuly04_final.doc+" target="_blank">
View as HTML</a> -</span></font><br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br></span>