<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 10 January 2008 - Volume 01</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">=========================================================================
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: <span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Elsie Zinsser
</span> <span><<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za" target="_blank">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Language education" 2008.01.10 (02) [E]<br></span>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Hi all,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Marcel, as I do not have a television set, I have no ideawhether Kids Newsroom was ever broadcasted in Afrikaans.
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Judging from the total lack of complete Afrikaans children programmes,I suspect not. <span>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">The
excuse by your ambassador of adequate social networks forcoloured and
white kids is a false assumption. The following article indicates
thatAfrikaans-speaking coloured kids in the rural Western Cape are in
dire need foreducational programmes in Afrikaans. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><i><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-style: italic;"><a href="http://web.uct.ac.za/depts/praesa/OPaper14.PDF" target="_blank">
<font color="black"><span style="color: black; text-decoration: none;">The Rise andPossible Demise of Afrikaans as a Public Language</span></font></a> - </span></font></i></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><u><font color="blue" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: blue;">http://<a href="http://www.uct.ac.za/depts/praesa/OPaper14.PDF" target="_blank">www.uct.ac.za/depts/praesa/OPaper14.PDF
</a></span></font></u></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">You can view the TV programming content of SABC 1, SABC 2 andSABC 3 on their respective websites at
<a href="http://www.sabc1.co.za/" target="_blank">www.sabc1.co.za</a>/ <a href="http://www.sabc2.co.za/" target="_blank">www.sabc2.co.za</a> / <a href="http://www.sabc3.co.za/" target="_blank">www.sabc3.co.za</a> </span></font>
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Only SABC 2 provides Afrikaans content. </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">I watched a supposedly educational programme on TV with mygrandson the other day and was very confused.
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Different
animal characters -complete with costumes of a dogor a piggy- presented
their individual lines in Sotho, English, Tswana, and evena word or two
in Afrikaans! In other words, there is no coherence and no
completeinformational package is presented in any language group. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Why only English? It is not a secret that the government,in its attempt to compete globally, is driving towards a
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<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">single
public language. It was widely believed that mothertongue education is
not that essential but the continuous drop in school passrates since
1994, has prompted educationists to review the need for mothertongue
education beyond primary education. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></b></span></h2>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 11pt; color: black;"><span> </span></span></font></b></span><span><font color="black" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">More info on TV:</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Violencein children's programmes</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://libserv5.tut.ac.za:7780/pls/eres/wpg_docload.download_file?p_filename=F347492673/pretorius.pdf" target="_blank">
http://libserv5.tut.ac.za:7780/pls/eres/wpg_docload.download_file?p_filename=F347492673/pretorius.pdf</a></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">About KidsNewsroom (from SABC 2) </span></font></span></p>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 11pt; color: black;"><a href="http://vcmstatic.sabc.co.za/VCMStaticProdStage/CORPORATE/SABC%20Corporate/Document/unilever.pdf" target="_blank">
http://vcmstatic.sabc.co.za/VCMStaticProdStage/CORPORATE/SABC%20Corporate/Document/unilever.pdf</a><span></span></span></font></b></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 11pt; color: black;" lang="FR"> </span></font></b></span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 11pt; color: black;" lang="FR">Regards,</span></font></b></span>
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<h2 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><b><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 11pt; color: black;" lang="FR">Elsie Zinsser</span></font></b></span>
<span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="FR"></span></font></span></h2>
<div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From: </span></font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Marcel Bas <<a href="mailto:roepstem@hotmail.com" target="_blank">roepstem@hotmail.com </a>></span><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black"> </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
Subject: <span>LL-L "Language education" 2008.01.09 (05)[AE]</span></font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">Hi Elsie,</font>
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black"> </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">You wrote about the television programmes: "which tends to broadcastmixed-language
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">kiddie shows"</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black"> </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">Can
you tell me if Kid's Newsroom also broadcasts in Afrikaans? They used
tobroadcast in Xhosa, Zulu, Venda, Tswana (among others) and in
English, but <i><i>not</i></i>in Afrikaans. </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">I
went to the embassy back in May to talk (and complain) about
thislanguage discrimination. The embassador said that there is no
reasonwhy the show is not aired in Afrikaans when it is aired in
English. She saidthis because the main argument for the discrimination
of Afrikaans is thatsocial networks of Afrikaans speakers (both
coloured and white) are more intactthat those of black peoples in rural
areas. These kids need news andinformation on where to go to when they
are in need. Children inblack communities usually only speak their own
language, so the showhas to be broadcast in one of the African
languages. So why is it aired inEnglish, then?</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black"> </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">
So she
could make a plan with people from the SABC. What's more, Kid'sNewsroom
was financed by a Dutch organisation, Free Voice. I think that theleast
that we can expect from a Dutch organisation is that it supports
thepromotion of Afrikaans.</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black"> </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">So is the show in Afrikaans, or is the language still being ignored?
</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black"> </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">Best regards,</font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black"> </font><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" color="black">Marcel.</font><br></div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br>----------<br><br>From: <span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Elsie Zinsser</span> <span><<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za" target="_blank">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Language education" 2008.01.10 (06) [E]<font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;"><br></span></font></span>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi all,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Thanks,Gael, for the web resources.</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Regards,<br>ElsieZinsser</span></font></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 36pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><i><font color="black" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-style: italic;">ForElsie </span></font></i><font color="black" size="1">
<span style="font-size: 8pt; color: black;">[India is moving beyondthe problem you're describing… perhaps]</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 36pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black;">1. <a href="http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=neTLI2lvdBYC&oi=fnd&pg=RA1-PA45&dq=STAR+%22Transnational+television,+cultural+identity%22&ots=W6RbFNKMys&sig=xRZ0lyuXcgrdryy2piaaclZkZdk" target="_blank">
<font color="#0000cc"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204);">TransnationalTelevision, Cultural Identity and Change: When Star Came to India</span></font></a>(2003)-by Melissa Butcher—google-book</span></font><font color="black">
<span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black;">2. [DOC] <a href="http://www-edit.usyd.edu.au/riap/documents/publications/upocc_jisjuly04_final.doc" target="_blank">
Cultural Change: Reflections on the Identity Strategies ofIndian</a> and Australian youth (2006)…-by Melissa Butcher- <a href="http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:cDeIXMryTPYJ:www-edit.usyd.edu.au/riap/documents/research/tcc/upocc_jisjuly04_final.doc+" target="_blank">
View as HTML</a> -</span></font><br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br></span>