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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 13 January 2008 - Volume 04
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">
<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Lexicon"
2008.01.13 (02) [E]<br></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ingmar wrote: "but when North Brabanders are (trying)<br>speaking Standard Dutch, they usually say "langs": "ik zit langs jou"
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<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Do
you think this might be where the nautical expression ' to lie
alongside / another boat or the harbour wall' i.e. next to it comes
from?</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Lots of English nautical terms come from Dutch / North Sea coastline</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Heather</p><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Mark Dreyer</span> <span class="lDACoc">
<<a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net">mrdreyer@lantic.net</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Lexicon" 2008.01.13 (02) [E]</span>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Dear Ingmar, Ron & All:</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: L-Lowlands: Lexicon.</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">It seems to me that if this is so the Afrikaans usage is
nearer to Brabants then, than AB Nederlands.</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">We say 'langs' as in "Thomas sit langs Marie." = "Thomas
sits beside Marie."</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">On the other hand, "Afrikaans is naaste aan
Nederlands." = "Afrikaans is closest to Netherlands."</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">And "Jou welsyn is my belang." = "Your welfare is my
concern."</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">And we also have "...die huis neffens die kraal." =
"...the house alongside the corral." </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div class="Ih2E3d">"Low Saxon *blangen*,
*blangs*, etc., means "alongside" from *bi<br>lang-s/en*("by long-...").
However, in most northern dialects it has<br>come to be used<br>in the sense of "next to" as
well, where other dialects would use<br>*neven*(cf. German<br>*neben*), probably via the
meaning "by the side of ..." (Say, trees that <br>stand alongside a road stand
next to the road.)"<br><br>Hey, that's the same as the
North Brabant use of "langs" instead of<br>Standard Dutch "naast". The
funny thing is that the Brabant dialect word<br>is something like "neffen", but
when North Brabanders are (trying)<br>speaking Standard Dutch, they
usually say "langs": "ik zit langs jou" I'm <br>sitting next to you, instead of
Standard Dutch "ik zit naast jou" and<br>Brabant dialect "ik zit neffen
ou". Unlike German with "neben", Dutch<br>doesn't have an equivalent of
"neffen" anymore, other than in compound<br>words like "nevenfunctie".
"Langs" in Standard Dutch means alongside, <br>e.g. "de bomen staan langs de
weg" the trees stand alongside de road.<br><br></div>Yrs,</div>
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Arial">Mark</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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