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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 19 January 2008 - Volume 06
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">
Mark Dreyer</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net">mrdreyer@lantic.net</a>></span></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language history" 2008.01.18 (07) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi
Ja</span></font><span>cqueline:</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: <span>LL-L "Language
varieties"</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi, Jacqueline, I
have a cute book called 'Talk American' that refers to the very phenomenon you
describe, with Dutch Americans & indigenous meldings with negro slave talk
& native American languages - fascinating. & this applies to a bit of
colonial political this-for-that swopping both between the Netherlands &
Great Britain over The Dutch & British Carribean <strong>incuding</strong>
Guiana & Dutch & British North America.</span></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Your last comment
about immigration into America melds with Elsie's bit of history. Actually what
we had in this country from about 1652 to 1820 could be better described as an
'anti-colony'. Lady Anne Barnard describes in her diary of the first Brish
occupation of the Cape after 1795 how hostile her administration was to the
very <strong>notion </strong>of settling independant-minded colonists in
the Cape. Those dastardly Americans, for example - look what they
did! </span></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Jacqueline
said:</span></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">There are some
examples of Dutch based creoles in North America like "Black Jersey Dutch"
, which was a mixture of Dutch, English and Mohawk. It was still being spoken in
some areas along the New York-New Jersey border at the beginning of the
20<sup>th</sup> century by some people of mixed racial ancestry .
</span></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">T</span></font><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">he other argument is that I have the impression that the
English immigration to America was much heavier and consisted mainly of farmers.
They were also more interested in the expansion of the Empire. There was
less interaction with the local Indians and that the relationship between
settlers and the locals was much more painful.</span></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Yrs,</span></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mark<br><br></span></font></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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