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<div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">=========================================================================<br>L O W L A N D S - L - 04 February 2008 - Volume 07<br style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
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========================================================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language politics" 2008.02.05 (01) [E]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: <span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Tom Mc Rae</span> <span><<a href="mailto:t.mcrae@uq.net.au" target="_blank">t.mcrae@uq.net.au</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2008.02.04 (04) [E]<br><br></span> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> <div>On 05/02/2008, at 3:06 AM, R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 16px; word-spacing: 0px; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; line-height: normal; font-style: normal; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font-variant: normal;"> <div>
<span> </span>Let's
assume all the Northumbrian speakers on both sides of the border did
come to an understanding, how would the government of England react? I
assume there would be little or no opposition on the part of the
government of Scotland (since it would be no fat off<span> </span><i>their<span> </span></i>backs).<br></div> <div>I
am not suggesting that I think such unification should happen. After
all, who am to suggest this? I am only curious to know how such a
proposal would be received by the relevant parties.<br>So what say the horses' mouths?</div></span></blockquote>Apart from a loud 'Neigh' meaning 'Yeah' it would be great to
see the area return to Mother.</div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">After all it was part and parcel of Scotland for quite some time. And as to Berwick !</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Regards</font></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Tom Mc Rae</font></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Brisbane Australia</font></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Oh Wad Some Power the Giftie Gie Us</font></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Tae See Oorsel's as Ithers See Us</font></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Robert Burns</font></div>
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Well,
if it comes to that, the Kingdom of Northumbria extended far into
present day Scotland - and the Northumbrians were definitely part of
the Angelcyn. Lets face it, the present border is where it is, because
it's where it is. It could have ended up 30 miles away, in either
direction (or both). But I don't think you'd find your wish that
Northumberland be part of Scotland shared by many this side of the
border; it makes no more sense than suggesting that Lothian should be
part of England - as it might have been.</div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Arbitrary?
no doubt. But ask the USA and Canada whether they think of themselves
separate countries, despite their border being more of a map-makers
whim than anything Europe could come with.</div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div> <span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Paul Finlow-Bates</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Sandy Fleming</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:sandy@scotstext.org">sandy@scotstext.org</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language politics" 2008.02.05 (05) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">
> From: Andy Eagle <<a href="mailto:andy@scots-online.org">andy@scots-online.org</a>><br>> Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2008.02.04 (04) [E]<br><br></div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ye leevin yit, Andy? :)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d"><br>> Consonants may well be similar but even her a few difference pop to<br>> mind. As<br>> Paul mentioned that Geordies don't generally<br>
> sound medial "r"s any more than other Northern or Midland English or<br>> Standard dialects, though that wouldn't pose an orthographic problem.<br>> What<br>> about richt and reet (right) etc.?<br>
<br></div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I seem to remember a few Geordies telling me that "reet", "neet" &c go</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">back to Nordic roots.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I should say that I wouldn't try to say anything about unification in</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">any national or even orthographic sense (I don't think either matter at</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">all, though it's helpful for casual readers if orthographies have broad</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">similarities), just unification of "Northumbrian Studies" or whatever</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">you want to call it.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888"><br>Sandy Fleming<br><a href="http://scotstext.org/" target="_blank">http://scotstext.org/</a></font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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