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=========================================================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Luc Hellinckx</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "History"<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">este Roger,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
You wrote:
</span><blockquote style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" type="cite">
<div><font size="2"><strong>Steen</strong>okkerzeel
originally formed together with <strong>Neder</strong>okkerzeel (now
part of Kampenhout) a larger area <strong>Ochinsala</strong>.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">It
was given by "Pepin of Herstal", together with "Ham", to the abbey of
Sint Truiden in the 8th century.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">1076
Hocensele</font></div>
<div><font size="2">1147
Hockenzela</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Etymology:
</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Sala</strong>:
Franconian for place</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Ochin</strong>:
different explanations in litterature:</font></div>
<div><font size="2">-
Diminutive of <strong>Hukkon</strong>, Hugo (Carnoy)</font></div>
<div><font size="2">-
<strong>Hokko</strong>, an abreviation of <strong>Hueger, Hugbald</strong>
(De Vries).</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><strong>Steen</strong>:
most probably referring to a stronghold or fortress.</font></div>
</blockquote>
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
In the early 20th century, Steenokkerzeel was called "Snokkeziël" in
the local lingo. Maybe they still do so, but I'm not sure.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
</span><blockquote style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" type="cite">
<div><font size="2">The
area between Steenokkerzeel-center and Wambeek, a bit South of my
house, has recently completely been depleted of buildings (except for
the old graveyard). It is reportedly done for having a "fall" area in
front of runway 25R. We have much police interventions for chasing
plane spotters from the graves, especially on sunny Sundays as today
(yesterday we had record temperatures of 16.8 celsius for a 9th of
February).</font></div>
<div><font size="2">The
roof on the castle on the top part of <a href="http://www.euro-support.be/temp/so.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/temp/so.jpg</a>
has also been removed for air traffic safety.</font></div>
</blockquote>
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Guess you mean the "Kasteel van Ham"? I was there a couple of months
ago: nice place and in surprisingly good condition (not obvious for a
castle nowadays, heating costs taken into account).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
By the way, there's another Wambeek in the Pajottenland (west of
Brussels), which is called "Wammek" in dialect (the b is lost). Same
goes for "Lombeek" which becomes "Loemmek", "Opwijk" > "Opaëk",
"Norwich" > "Norich", "Greenwich" > "Greenich", "Katwijk" >
"Katek", if I remember well. On the other hand, this effect does not
take place in names like "Humbeek" and "Hombeek" (near Mechelen). So I
wonder if the b is also lost in Middenbrabants "Wambeek".</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<blockquote style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" type="cite">
<div><font size="2">Steenokkerzeel
was part of the ban of Brussels in the old Duchy of Brabant. This
Brussels area is actually the real original "Brabant". When the
counts/dukes of Leuven acquired the Brussels territory, they changed
the overall name of their territory into Brabant.</font></div>
</blockquote>
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Didn't know that. So how did the dukes call their territory before that
time?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Kind greetings,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Luc Hellinckx</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">