<div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">=========================================================================<br>L O W L A N D S - L  - 12 February 2008 - Volume 04<br style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
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=========================================================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Howard Scott</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:listes@alterego.montreal.qc.ca">listes@alterego.montreal.qc.ca</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Sociolinguistics" 2008.02.07 (06) [E]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>From: Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">><<mailto:</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:Dutchmatters@comcast.net">Dutchmatters@comcast.net</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:Dutchmatters@comcast.net">Dutchmatters@comcast.net</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>Subject: LL-L "History" 2008.02.07 (01) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>It seemed to me that that would have been more</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>prevalent when the tasks of men and women in</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>their society were far more different than they</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>are today. It could also be a subject for a Science Fiction novel.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">"Native Tongue is the first novel in</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzette_Haden_Elgin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzette_Haden_Elgin</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>Suzette</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Haden Elgin's</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_science_fiction" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_science_fiction</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>feminist</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">science fiction series of the same name. The</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">trilogy is centered in a future</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystopian" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystopian</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>dystopian</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>American</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">society where the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>19th</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Amendment has been repealed and</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>women have</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">been stripped of</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>civil</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">rights. A group of women, part of a world-wide</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">group of</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>linguists</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">who facilitate human communication with alien</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">races, create a new language for women as an act</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">of resistance. The language,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laadan" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laadan</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>Làadan, was</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">actually created by Elgin and instructional materials are available."</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Tongue_%28novel%29" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Tongue_%28novel%29</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">parts available in Google Books:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=T3XOjNnLBEsC&pg=PP1&dq=Native+Tongue&ei=YLmsR_nxKIyyiQHU98WnBg&sig=5N_ZMdBRoSeD2a8abXNsemJrkHI" target="_blank">http://books.google.ca/books?id=T3XOjNnLBEsC&pg=PP1&dq=Native+Tongue&ei=YLmsR_nxKIyyiQHU98WnBg&sig=5N_ZMdBRoSeD2a8abXNsemJrkHI</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">In the real world, there is supposed to be a</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">secret women's language in a region of Chinese</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">called Nushu. (Plenty of hits on the Web if you search for "nushu.")</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">More on topic, in situations of diglossia, one</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">language can "belong" more to one sex than the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">other. Yiddish is, in fact, called the "mama</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">loshen" since it is seen as belonging more to the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">women's sphere of the home, whereas as in</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">conservative Jewish communities, Hebrew is</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">definitely much more the province of the men. I'm</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">sure there are similar divisions of linguistic</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">labour for many of the other languages discussed on this list.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888"><br>
Howard Scott</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">