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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Felix Hülsey</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:felix.huelsey@gmx.de">felix.huelsey@gmx.de</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L Etymology<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Hi all,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Jorge Potter wrote on Friday:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> I could go on forever, imagining what every name means…but, is it</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> possible that any of you would be moved to explain online what your</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> names really mean?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Sure, as you all know my name is Hülsey and I have had Turkish people</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
asking me if it was a Turkish name.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
No, it isn't, it's plain Lowlands:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Hülse is the Low Saxon word for the plant Ilex aquifolium (G:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Europäische/Gemeine Stechpalme, E: European Holly, D: Hulst), and the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
-ey part seems to denote a hill.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
In Westphalia and all of Northern Germany, you find lots of people who</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
have names with Hüls, like Hülsmann, Hülshoff, Hülsebusch etc., I</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
actually went to school in Marl-Hüls. Hülsey is less common, nearly all</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
of us have lived in two counties in Eastern Westphalia at least since</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
the 30-year war: my father's people in the Kreis Gütersloh, and there's</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
another branch in the Kreis Steinfurt. We don't know the Steinfurt</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
people though, it's still a tiny world in those parts ;-)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
I have become very interested in onomastics and genealogy lately, here</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
are a few links some of you might like:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
the Mormons' site (they claim to have a billion persons' data):</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://www.familysearch.org/" target="_blank">http://www.familysearch.org/</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
geographical distribution of family names in Germany:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/v3/" target="_blank">http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/v3/</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
the same for the US:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://www.gens-us.net/" target="_blank">http://www.gens-us.net/</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
the link page of a linguistic professor at Leipzig University (in German):</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://www.uni-leipzig.de/%7Eonoma/onomastik/" target="_blank">http://www.uni-leipzig.de/~onoma/onomastik/</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Regards from Cologne,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Felix</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.03.02 (03) [D/E]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">as for Slavic (and Baltic) fish names, including our beloved</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
"weatherfish" (piskorz / pískoř), an interesting article can be</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
accessed / downloaded at:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://www.leidykla.vu.lt/inetleid/baltistic/39_1/straipsniai/str9.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.leidykla.vu.lt/inetleid/baltistic/39_1/straipsniai/str9.pdf</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
AND, for the Baltically-challenged, it is NOT even in Lithuanian (ah,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
shucks! ... you were hoping what? Old Prussian?!) ... just plain-old</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
English.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Mike Morgan</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
> From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Etymology<br>
><br>
> Jonny, *Padde* is still the ordinary Low Saxon word for 'frog' or 'toad' in<br>
> Eastern Friesland and in Mecklenburg.<br>
><br>
> The fish (*Misgurnus fossilis*) is called "weaterfish," "weather loach,"<br>
> "mudloach" or "dojo loach" in English, *grote modderkruiper* in Dutch, *<br>
> dyndsmerling* in Danish, *dynnsmerling *in Norwegian, *slampiskare *in<br>
> Swedish, *loche d'étang* in French, *locha de estaque* in Spanish,<br>
> *piskorz*in Polish,<br>
> *pískoř pruhovaný* in Czech, вьюн *v'jun* in Russian, *réti csík* in<br>
> Hungarian, and *mutakala *in Finnish.<br>
><br>
> Note Western Slavic *piskorz* and *pískoř*, and compare this with German *<br>
> Pissgurn* ... Quite a few German names for animals are Slavic-derived. Is<br>
> this one, or is it the other way around?<br><br>
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