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=========================================================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">M.-L. Lessing</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:marless@gmx.de">marless@gmx.de</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Idiomatica" 2008.03.05 (02) [E]<br><br style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">
</span><div style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">Dear Jonny,</div>
<div style="font-family: times new roman,serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">I have also heard the version
"gnatzgniedelig". Is it related? "Eine Sache vergnatzgniedeln" means to spoil a
thing. Where do all these gn-Words come from? Is gn- originally Low
Saxon?</div>
<div style="font-family: times new roman,serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">Hartlich!</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Marlou</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>
</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: Administrativia</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">To me, someone that does </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">vergnatzgniedeln</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> seems to be a "party pooper" in American English, or a "spoilsport" in general English, a </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Spaßverderber</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> in German. Hence the apparent connection with </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnatzig</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> and </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">vergnatzt</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'cross', 'surly', 'in a huff', and </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Gnatz</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> ~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Gnaatsch </i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">'row', 'fight', 'argument'. The following may be related to these: </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnatterig</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'surly', 'angry', and </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Gnatter</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'unpleasant character', 'curmudgeon'.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Interestingly, many of these semantically related words start with </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gn-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">, also </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnegelig</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> and </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnietschig</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">And, yes, </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gn-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> occurs a lot in the language, in some cases corresponding to German </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">kn-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">; e.g.m </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnurren</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> (G. </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">knurren</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">) 'to growl', 'to gnarl', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnarren</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> (G. </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">knarren</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">) 'to creak', 'to gnaw', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnarschen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> (G. </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">knirschen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">) 'to crunch', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnaastern</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to crunch', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnarschen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to crunch', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnavveln ~ gnabbeln </i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">'to gnaw', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Gnitt</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'gnat', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnietsch(ig)</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'stingy', 'thrifty', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnietschen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to squeak', 'to be thrifty', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gniegeln</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to fiddel (badly)', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gniggern</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> ~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnickern ~ gnuggern</i><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">'to giggle', 'to neigh (softly)', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gniedeln</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to polish', 'to rub (vigorously)', 'to grind', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gniddeln</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to flirt', </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">gnuffen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> (G. </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">knuffen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">) 'to nudge'.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reminder: </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">-l-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> and </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">-r-</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> are frequentive or iterative action markers.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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