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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">wim</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wkv@home.nl">wkv@home.nl</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.03.09 (01) [E]<br></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">Hi,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">What comes to mind now is the words
with the root of an ancient word for white in it,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">Libanon, the alps, albinon… ( the
libanon has white mountain tops in winter, the alps too, and albinon white
chalk clifs)</span></font></span></p>
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">Wim verdoold</span></font></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br>
----------<br><br>From: <span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">orville crane</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:manbythewater@hotmail.com">manbythewater@hotmail.com</a>><br>Subject: </span>LL-L "Etymology" 2008.03.09 (02) [D/E]<br>
<br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Belarus-White Russia.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
man by the water</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br>----------<br><br>From: <span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Luc Hellinckx</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);"></span><span class="lDACoc"><br>
Subject: </span>LL-L "Etymology"<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Beste Jorge,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
You wrote:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<blockquote style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" type="cite">>
I could go on forever, imagining what every name means…but, is it<br>
> possible
that any of you would be moved to explain online what your<br>
> names
really mean?<br>
</blockquote>
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Sure. </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Judging the oldest spelling of one of my ancestors' name, "Gielys
Hellincx", (1467, Merchtem, precisely the town where I grew up, and
still the center of all living Hellinckx' today), I believe it to be
the Brabantish genitive of "hallinc", a Middle Dutch word for a coin,
worth half a penny, which you could analyze as "half-ling". </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Interestingly, Scots has the word "hauflin" (halflin(g)) for a sturdy
teenager, and Shakespeare used it to describe a man the size of a boy.
Tolkien as well, must have been inspired by the Scots word, when he was
designing the Hobbits.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Apparently, in the past, people were quite often named after currency.
Dutch names like "Schellinck(x)", "Penninck(x)" and "Hellinck(x)" prove
this (resp. shilling, penny and halfling). Of course there's quite a
lot of geographical variation in the spelling:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
English: Shilling, Penny, Helling</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Northern Dutch: Schelling, Penning, Helling</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Southwestern Dutch: Schellinck, Penninck, Hellinck</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Central Dutch: Schellinckx, Penninckx, Hellinckx</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Eastern Dutch: Schellings, Pennings, Hellings</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
German: Schilling(er), Pfenni(n)g(er), Helling(er)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Another explanation, that I consider less likely, sees "Hellinckx" as
the genitive of a pet name (Hello, Hillin, Hellin...) for one of the
many hild-names. In Hildebrand, Hildeboud, Hildebert, Hildegard...,
hild- means "battle". </span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Even today, we still sometimes construct names this way: Luc > (de)
Lukken, Jef > (de) Seppen, Wim ~ Guillaume > (de) Lommen...</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Such derivations are meant to be somewhat endearing, somehow more
personal than the original name on your birth certificate.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Kind greetings,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Luc Hellinckx</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: Etymology</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Luc,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
German: Schilling(er), Pfenni(n)g(er), Helling(er)</span><br></div>
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I take it then this is not the same as the old </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Heller</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">. That was a </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Pfennig</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> minted in Schwäbisch-Hall, thus </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Haller</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> > </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Häller</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> > </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Heller</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br><br><br></span>