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=========================================================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br>From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">jonny</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.03.11 (01) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span>Beste
Utz,</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Du
schreyvst:</span></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><font color="#008080">"Genetisch<br>gesprochen, würden die meisten
Wissenschaftler zustimmen, dass ein<br>Grulla dasselbe ist wie ein
Black Pferd – mit einer Ausnahme. Grullas<br>haben letztendlich ein
(heterozygot), und können zwei (homozygot),<br>dominante Dunfaktor-Allele
haben, genannt das "D" Gen."</font></div>
<div> </div>
</div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Tja- um
<u>das</u> zu verstehen, fehlen mir doch einfach die 'höheren Weihen' der
Pferdezucht ;-)!</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="left">Allerbest<span> und Dank!</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="left"> </div>
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" face="Courier New">Jonny Meibohm</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br>----------<br>
<br>From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Fonken, Gael M. [<a href="mailto:foga0301@stcloudstate.edu">foga0301@stcloudstate.edu</a>]</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:foga0301@stcloudstate.edu">foga0301@stcloudstate.edu</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">Is this LL-L "Etymology" ?<br></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Ron and all,</span></p>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;">Congratulations on the award. I too am glad
to see such good basic-level news come in amidst so much focus on superficial high-level
things. Okay, but let's not stop this inclusive learning process…I'm
not "there" yet. Here's a webpage that helped me to
learn another basic thing from "you all": </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(75, 172, 198); font-weight: normal;"><a href="http://www.haruth.com/mw/teach.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: rgb(75, 172, 198);">TEACH ME
A "YIDISH VORT"</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;">. </span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;"> </span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;"> I post it, because: </span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;">Ron, you wrote </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(192, 80, 77); font-weight: normal;">"…</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(192, 80, 77); font-weight: normal;">and never mind the
current political <i>shlamazl</i>, things are </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(192, 80, 77); font-weight: normal;">happening in Belgium, often
surprisingly so." </span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;"> </span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;"> Well, so, I didn't
know what (exactly) you were saying, so I finally found its meaning here in
this informative essay for beginners, but only after watching a news clip or
two that proclaimed things like:</span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;"> </span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: normal;">"Baby caught in train door, schlmiel<span style="color: black;">! schlamazl!, and "the thing you need in order to
become a better shlamazl", and "I believe the term comes from
somewhere near Odessa, and means something like schlamazl", and "The
two cases might be a little different in who the schlemiel and schlamazl are",
and "You can't be a real nebbish if you are goyim, you'll only look like
a schlamazl", and "Some schlamazl? You couldn't give your
mama a grandchild of her own? I'll just dry up like an old termite mound,
because that's what I am alone in my old ...", "Can't you
just see Moishe pointing his wand at Draco and say, "Schlamazl!".
</span></span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-weight: normal;"> </span></h2>
<h2 style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-weight: normal;"> So, when I found
this Yidish Vort cite, I finally figured it out (I think)… But these
others hints help too to see how such a word <i><u>lives</u></i> out in the
real world. There are some other words in that essay that you all might
like to teach me.</span></h2>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Your Latino-friendly-LS-Pakistani Yankee at large,</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Gael </span></p><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: Etymology<br><br>Sorry I used an obscure Yiddish loanword, Gael.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Yiddish שלימזל ~ שלאמזל </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">shlamazl</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> ~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">shlemazl</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> ~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">shlimazl</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> appears to come from Hebrew שלאמזל </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">shelo mazal</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> "that which is not fortune," thus 'misfortune', also 'messy or precarious situation'. In many contexts it's the opposite of מזל </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">mazl</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> (< Hebrew </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">mazal</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">) '(good) fortune'. This is the one you find in </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">mazltov</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'best wishes!'. In Yiddish and in Judeo-English </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">shlamazl</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> ~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">shlemazl</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> ~ </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">shlimazl</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> may also denote a person, for instance someone whom misfortune follows around, "a mess" of a person, a "walking misfortune", etc.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">In German, </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Schlamassel</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> only denotes 'bad/messy situation', 'misfortune'. While the opposite </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">*Massel</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> either doesn't exist or is defunct (to my knowledge),* a derived transitive verb does exist: </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">vermasseln</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to spoil', 'to mess up' (schemes, programs, fun, ventures, etc.).<br>
<br>*Dutch does use <i>mazzel</i> in the sense of '(good) fortune' or 'luck'. You can wish someone the best by saying <i>de mazzel</i> (where the first part of a sentence has been dropped).<br><br>And, since you are "Ladino-friendly" (as am I), let me mention these words:<br>
</span><ul style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><li>מזל<i> mazal </i>(<i>mazál</i>) used mostly in the neutral sense of 'fortune', also 'destiny' or 'fate' (= Yiddish מזל <i>mazl</i>)</li>
<li>מזלוסו / -א <i>mazaloso </i>/<i> -a </i>(<i>mazalózo </i>/ <i>-a</i>) 'fortunate', 'lucky' (= Yiddish מזלדיק <i>mazldik</i>)<br></li><li>דיסמזלאדו / -א <i>desmazalado</i> /<i> -a </i>(<i>desmazaládo </i>/ <i>-a</i>) 'unfortunate', 'unlucky' (= Yiddish שלימזלניק <i>shlimazldik</i>)<br>
</li></ul><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">As you can see, Semitic loans are freely and easily integrated into the morphologies of Germanic and Romance respectively.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I hope this explained it.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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