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<div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">=========================================================================<br>L O W L A N D S - L - 27 March 2008 - Volume 05<br style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
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========================================================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">orville crane</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:manbythewater@hotmail.com">manbythewater@hotmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language varieties" 2008.03.27 (03) [E]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Heather,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Will have to read Michael Erard's article in The New Scientist, 'English as she is spoke'.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
So many world-wide regional variations of the English language! I
remember reading years ago about an international Scrabble competition
in Great Britain. Americans had to brush up on another 40,000 words to
be up to snuff with the English speakers in Great Britain. I realized
then that if this was accurate, the version of English spoken in Great
Britain was a richer variety that that spoken in the United States!</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
So many varieties of English; Indian, South African, Australian, New
Zealand, American, Canadian, European, etc. It seems to me that even
though 'friend' might be pronounced 'frien' or 'fren', that the word
would still be spelled as 'friend', even though the 'd' would not be
pronounced. The efforts to rationalize English orthography haven't been
really successful. There is no English Academy to standardize the
spelling of to keep 'foreign' words out of the vernacular.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
I have already heard 'I have went' and other instances of using the
past tense of irregular verbs in place of the past perfect tense of
these verbs. It is jarring to my own ear, although I understand the
speaker. Being the courteous person, I don't correct the speaker, as I
am able to understand them.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
I will have to seek out the article.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Tom</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
man by the water</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Language varieties<br><br>Hi, Tom!<br><br></font><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">> I have already heard 'I have went' </span><br>
</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Wow! Really? So far I have only come across constructions like "I should/would have went" in American English, and that seems to be on the increase. I have been "armed" with the challenge "Would you say 'I have went'?" According to what you say, this has been blown out of the water then ...</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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