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=========================================================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Mark Dreyer</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net">mrdreyer@lantic.net</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Games" 2008.04.18 (09) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id="1emc" class="ArwC7c ckChnd">
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<div>Beste Luc:</div>
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<div><span>Subject: </span>LL-L "Games"<br><span><br></span>I apologise: It was in an evil
moment I forgot the gustatory proclivities of a significant element of our
Lowlands community. As for 'die hondevreters', let it be remembered as a
tragic resort of an evil time (not the first or only in the whole World), &
a memorial of the same encapsulated in gallows humour, "I can't help thinking
how Fido would have enjoyed the bones..."</div><div class="Ih2E3d">
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<div>I wrote:</div>
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<div>Pigeons had (for all I know still have) the same domestic status as
dogs & horses. Only unregenerate parvenus would stoop to eating the noble
bird. Don't you have chickens?</div>
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</div><div class="Ih2E3d"><div>You wrote:</div>
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<div>Oops, maybe we're
just cannibals, but we eat them all: horses and pigeons, and even dogs (the
latter only during wartime, nickname of inhabitants of Boom still is
"d'honnefrètters"). Pigeon meat is considered a delicacy, and used to be given
only to ill people or people recovering from a disease; nowadays, you can buy
pigeon in most supermarkets. At the same time, the bird is still held in high
regard though.</div>
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</div><div>Yrs,</div>
<div>Mark<br><br>-------------<br><br>
From: <span class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Tom Mc Rae</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:t.mcrae@uq.net.au">t.mcrae@uq.net.au</a>></span></span><span class="HcCDpe"><span class="lDACoc"></span></span><br>
Subject: <span class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Games" 2008.04.18 (09) [E]</span><br></div></div>
</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div>On 19/04/2008, at 10:32 AM,<br><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Luc Hellinckx</span> <span><<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com" target="_blank">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"> Pigeon meat is considered a delicacy,</span></blockquote>
<br></div></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">It most certainly is, in earlier times in Scotland and England all noble houses and castles had a pigeon loft</div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
to ensure a supply of good meat. During my days in Northern Ghana I would shoot the large West African Green Pigeons,</div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">as they feed largely on wild figs the meat is fantastic. North Africa of course has its famous Bstilla, a dish of stewed pigeon</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">in a savoury custard sauce layered with filo pastry an dusted lightly with icing sugar.</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Regards</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Tom Mc Rae</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">Brisbane Australia</font></p>
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From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><span class="lDACoc"></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Games" 2008.04.18 (06) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Dear Elsie, Roger, Mark and all,</div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> </div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Subject: LL-L "Games"</div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> </div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Re pigeon racing</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">It has always been quite popular in England, traditionally associated with the Northern English working class, though it
certainly has followers in other areas and other social groups.</span> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The
recovery of the peregrine falcon from the brink of extinction has led
to some fanciers actually calling for a return to the persecution!
Tough luck I say: if you don't like predators eating a prey animal,
don't race prey animals. Given the millions of feral pigeons
("sky-rats") in UK cities, I don't suppose the peregrines get around to
too many prize racers anyway.</div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Paul Finlow-Bates</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0);">Mike Morgan</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:mwmosaka@gmail.com">mwmosaka@gmail.com</a>></span><span class="lDACoc"></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Games" 2008.04.18 (06) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="gmail_quote"><div>
Luc wrote: <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">PS: Pigeon racing still happens, but is not as popular as it used to be (<a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duivensport" target="_blank">http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duivensport</a>). I was once told that the best pigeons are sold for an awful lot of money to the Japanese.</blockquote>
<div><br>Yes, true. Although he was not in THAT class of people (rich
enough to buy the best), I had a Japanese Deaf friend who used to go to
Taiwan every year to buy racing / homing pigeons and spent a healthy
(unhealthy?) portion of his salary on that hobby. That was about 10
years ago, and I have lost touch with him, but I would guess he still
pursues the hobby.<br>
</div></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">MWM || マイク || Мика || माईक || માઈક || ਮਾਈਕ</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">================</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Dr Michael W Morgan</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Managing Director</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Ishara Foundation</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">茂流岸マイク(言語学博士)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">イシャラ基金の専務理事・事務局長</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">ムンバイ(ボンベイ)、インド</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Sandy Fleming</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:sandy@scotstext.org">sandy@scotstext.org</a>></span><span class="lDACoc"></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Games" 2008.04.18 (01) [E]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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> Subject: Games</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> I understand that pigeon racing is or used to be very common in</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> Belgium and Britain as well. What about the Netherlands and other</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
> countries?</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
This was very popular in my village in Scotland and the men often</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
enthusiastically discussed their pigeons ("dous" /du:z/) and many</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
gardens had a doucot (/'duk@?/).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
These men also often ate one of their pigeons. Motivation for the other</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
pigeons to win races? :)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888"><br>
Sandy Fleming<br>
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<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: Games</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Pigeon meat used to be eaten all over Europe and in many other parts of the world. However, the favorite has always be squab, which is young pigeon meat.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">My father raced pigeons and bred racing pigeons, and he separated inferior stock for the pot. We children hated it for several reasons. When I invited my Chinese roommate and his girlfriend to the first, newly opened "Western" restaurant in Nanjing, the only main dish on the menu that evening included pigeon, a whole pigeon for each person, as tough as old boots, obviously not the squab kind. (You should have seen some of the customers trying to handle it with chopsticks!)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Horse meat is traditionally eaten in Central Asia, France, Belgium and -- unbeknown to many -- in parts of Germany, including the north (also in the Netherlands?). When I was a child there was a horse meat shop in the neighborhood. My father made me eat horse steak a few times, and I hated it. Besides, it, too, was as tough as tough can be. I suspect we were partaking of retired race and draft horses ...</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Dog meat is eaten in various parts of the world also, for instance in some parts of Siberia, Manchuria, China and Korea. I once was tricked into eating it in China. I was not a happy camper when I found out, even though at the time I used to be a more adventurous eater and didn't have the ethical and spiritual position that I have now.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">(I love most types of animals and have particularly good rapport with birds, cats, dogs and horses, easily befriend even the most timid ones, so much so that once in Victoria, Canada, a draft horse Charlie followed me on the sidewalk, complete with his large, heavy "handsome car", much to the driver's consternation ...)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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