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</div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc.</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:thijs.roger@euro-support.be">thijs.roger@euro-support.be</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L History<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font size="2">A couple of weeks ago I have sent in some info about the Hanze
offices in Bruges and Antwerp. I still have to scan more about Antwerp, when I
have some more time.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">I think <strong>Hanze offices</strong> were in the scope of
Ron's projects. I presume <strong>Hanze towns</strong> are not.<br>I was today
in <strong>Dinant</strong>, which has been some kind of a Hanze town. (The only
Hansetown in the Romance language area)</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Sights from the Citadel this very rainy
afternoon:</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">to the North: <a href="http://www.euro-support.be/temp/dino.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/temp/dino.jpg</a></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">to the South: <a href="http://www.euro-support.be/temp/diso.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/temp/diso.jpg</a></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Dinant is now part of the Belgian province of Namur.
</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Map: </font><font size="2"><a href="http://www.euro-support.be/temp/din.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.euro-support.be/temp/din.jpg</a></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">The former rival town <strong>Bouvignes</strong> (top left on
the map) belonged to the Burgondian County of Namur.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Before 1795 Dinant belonged to the Principality of
Liege.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><strong>Leffe</strong> on top of the map may be best known to
the members in the group:</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leffe" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leffe</a></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">I don't have an local history of Dinant at home, but here is
what I found:<br><strong>"... Les marchands de cuivre de Dinant font partie de
la Hanse de Londres et de la Hanse Teutonique et ils ont participé du XIIe au
XVe siècle au grand commerce international..."</strong><br>Dinant, p. 381-382 in
Communes de Belgique Wallonie - tome 1, A-Lit, Brussels, 1980<br>The references
at the end of the lemma may contain more info:<br><em>E. Gérard, Histoire de la
ville de Dinant, Namur, 1936<br>H. Hachez, Histoire de la ville de Dinant,
Bruxelles, 1932</em><br>but I cannot verify.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">The fatal last year may have been 1466 when the town
(belonging then to the principality of Liège) suffered from a total destruction
by the Burgondians.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Etymology (Carnoy): <br><strong>Divo-nanto</strong>
(gaulique): holly valley<br><strong>divon-ant:</strong> habitation at the holly
river.</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinant" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinant</a><br><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinant" target="_blank">http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinant</a><br>
<strong><em>Copper</em>
</strong>made it famous:<br><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinanderie" target="_blank">http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinanderie</a><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolphe_Sax" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolphe_Sax</a></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Other references on the web;</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><a href="http://www.geo.ulg.ac.be/liege/principaute/dinant.htm" target="_blank">http://www.geo.ulg.ac.be/liege/principaute/dinant.htm</a><br><strong>...
Le grand essor de Dinant se produit entre le 12e et le 15e siècles grâce au
travail du cuivre, appelé dinanderie. Les marchands de cuivre contribuent au
commerce international et ils font partie de la Hanse de Londres et de la Hanse
teutonique....</strong></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><a href="http://digistore.bib.ulb.ac.be/2006/a12965_000_f.pdf" target="_blank">http://digistore.bib.ulb.ac.be/2006/a12965_000_f.pdf</a><br><font color="#ff0000"><u>28 pages</u></font>: <strong>Pirenne: Dinant dans la Hanse
Teutonique</strong>, 1904</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><a href="http://www.fabrice-muller.be/liege/histoire/bonnes-villes/dinant.html" target="_blank">http://www.fabrice-muller.be/liege/histoire/bonnes-villes/dinant.html</a><br>
<strong>...
Le grand essor de Dinant se produit entre le XIIe et le XVe siècles grâce au
travail du cuivre, appelé dinanderie. Les marchands de cuivre contribuent au
commerce international et ils font partie de la <font color="#0000ff">Hanse de
Londres</font> et de la <font color="#0000ff">Hanse teutonique</font>.</strong>
</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><a href="http://perso.infonie.be/liege06/09neufj.htm" target="_blank">http://perso.infonie.be/liege06/09neufj.htm</a><br>Note
2 at the bottom: ...<strong>La ville de Dinant faisait partie de la hanse
teutonique qui jouissait de grands privilèges commerciaux en
Angleterre...</strong></font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><strong></strong> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Regards,</font></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Roger</font></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
Subject: History<br><br>Thanks, as always, dear Roger.<br><br>Both Hanseatic offices and </span></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Hanseatic </span></font><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">cities (town), any relevant places, are of interest to this longer-term project.</span></font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">