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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">jonny</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.05 (01) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span>Dear
Heather,</span></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span>you
wrote:</span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#008080">>
And we also use the stork image as baby deliverer on cards etc even tho' storks
do not favour > England with their presence - except perhaps occasionally in
East Anglia??? or am I imagining > that.</font></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
</div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>You're quite right-
storks normally do not brood on the British islands. That's interesting, and I
wonder why.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>[Perhaps they have
done so before 1066, but then probably the population of frogs got decimated
;-)...]</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="left">Allerbest!</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="left"> </div>
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Jonny Meibohm</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Mari Sarv</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:mari@haldjas.folklore.ee">mari@haldjas.folklore.ee</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.05 (01) [E]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Dear all,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
in Estonia the stork tradition is known as well, it may well be Saxon
loan. But moreover, the first component of the word stork "toonekurg"
refers to other world "Toonela".</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">
Mari Sarv</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Mari Sarv</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:mari@haldjas.folklore.ee">mari@haldjas.folklore.ee</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.03 (02) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br>
</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Dear all again,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
in Estonia it is common to call those prints also as "prints of stork's beak" (kurenokajälg).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">
Mari Sarv</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">G TIGHE</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:tighe@sympatico.ca">tighe@sympatico.ca</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.05 (03) [E]<br><br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
From: <a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.com" target="_blank">heatherrendall@tiscali.com</a><<a href="http://webmail.tiscali.co.uk/cp/ps/Mail/MsgBody?d=tiscali.co.uk&contentSeed=1335d&u=heatherrendall&pct=d1971&l=en#" target="_blank">http://webmail.tiscali.co.uk/cp/ps/Mail/MsgBody?d=tiscali.co.uk&contentSeed=1335d&u=heatherrendall&pct=d1971&l=en#</a>><br>
Subject: LL-L "Traditions"<br>
<br>
In English we don't find babies in the cabbage patch but "under the<br>
gooseberry bush"<br>
<br>
Or the doctor brings them in his bag<br>
</blockquote><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
...</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Hi:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
My two younger sisters and I were brought to our Scottish home by the Midwife, Nurse Forrest, in her 'Black Bag'.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
You may guess how this effected my learning about 'The Birds and the Bees.'</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Also: "Playing Gooseberry" is I think an English expression about a third person and a pair of lovers.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Kind Regards</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Gerald Tighe</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.05 (04) [E]<br><br></span><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: Traditions<br><br>Even though the stork is not carnivorous.........<br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Try
telling some frogs, lizards and other birds' nestlings that! It's
pretty omnivorous actually. The Maribou stork in Africa even attacks
and kills flamingoes.</div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div> <span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Paul</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><br>----------<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Mike Morgan</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:mwmosaka@gmail.com">mwmosaka@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.05 (04) [E]<br><br>
</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Okay, I have a bit of problems reading the Tibetan (for some reason --</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
perhaps the instantiation of unicode i have installed? -- elements</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
that should be displayed stacked vertically show themselves lined up</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
horizontally! Annoying!) but the mention of bya-gtor (jator) or "sky</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
burial" among the Tibetans reminds of the problematic feature of local</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
culture here in Bombay (aka Mumbai).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
As you may (or may not) know, we have the world's largest population</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
of Parsis (Zoroastrians), and unlike other Indians, since they</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
consider the fire too sacred to be defiled by corpses, they do not</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
cremate, but rather expose corpses in "Towers of Silence". In fact,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
when I walk from my house here (in Mulund, one of Bombay's</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
northeasternmost suburbs) to the office (in Thane, technically the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
next city), I pass right by one.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
The problem (I said it was a problematic feature of local culture,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
right?) is that proper disposal in the Towers of Silence require one</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
element that is required is threatened by the fact that Bombay is one</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
of the most polluted places in the world: vultures! Beautiful,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
majestic birds! But I will have to say in the 5 plus months since</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
moving to Bombay, and in the 2 plus months since moving to Mulund and</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
walking past the local Tower, i have NEVER spotted hide nor feather of</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
a vulture. Okay, i know there aren't many remaining Parsis, and so</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
there may NOT be even one death a week, but I should have seen at</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
least ONE! My walking route takes me close enough to SEE the Tower,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
but NOT close enough to SMELL it ... I wonder ...</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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</span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: Traditions<br><br>Hi, everyone!<br><br>How nice to see Gerald and Mari make rare appearances!<br><br>Heather and Jonny, might it be that storks avoid flying across larger bodies of water? Don't they commute between Europe and Africa via the Levant and Egypt?<br>
<br>All right, all right, Paul. I guess what I had really had in mind was "necrophagous."<br><br>Mike, I've been told that most Zoroastrians now practice burial and cremation, that only a few Parsis still practice the old tradition. Birds are not considered necessary, though expedient, while in Tibet they are and monks hand-feed them while hacking up bodies. (I've witnessed it.)<br>
<br>(I know. Tibetan script still needs work in Unicode fonts. I have Tibetan-specific fonts that stack just beautifully and automatically.)<br><br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">