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<div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">=========================================================================<br>L O W L A N D S - L - 06 May 2008 - Volume 06<br style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
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and switch your browser's character encoding to Unicode.<br>=========================================================================<br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Andy Eagle</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:andy@scots-online.org">andy@scots-online.org</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.06 (01) [E]<br><br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Dear Heather,<br>
<br>
you wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
And we also use the stork image as baby deliverer on cards etc even tho'<br>
</blockquote>
storks do not favour > England with their presence - except perhaps<br>
occasionally in East Anglia??? or am I imagining > that.<br>
<br>
You're quite right- storks normally do not brood on the British islands.<br>
That's interesting, and I wonder why.<br>
[Perhaps they have done so before 1066, but then probably the population of<br>
frogs got decimated ;-)...]<br>
</blockquote>
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Apparently storks did once breed in the British Isles, and may be doing so again.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3653171.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3653171.stm</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">
<br>
Andy </font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Mike Morgan</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:mwmosaka@gmail.com">mwmosaka@gmail.com</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.06 (01) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">R/R wrote:<br>
<br>
> Mike, I've been told that most Zoroastrians now practice burial and<br>
> cremation,<br>
<br>
</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Which of course is to say (true, enough) that (like most Christians</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
perhasp?) most Parsis are not really fully practicing Parsis.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Cremation woudl be a BIG no-no for an "orthodox" Parsi.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> that only a few Parsis still practice the old tradition.<br>
<br>
</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Only holidays (like Parsi new years a month ago) still seem to be</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
celebrated "traditionally". And I am not sure how much of the "old</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
tradition" is even kept in that. (Most of Ishara's trustees (2 out of</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
3) and most of our donors (at leats the direct non-corporate donors)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
are Parsi. But none of them that I know are very traditional ... in</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
fact, they tend to be the most Westernized of Mumbaikars.)</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> Birds<br>
> are not considered necessary, though expedient<br>
<br>
</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">No, but I have heard that the non-Parsis in the neighborhood of Towers</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
of Silence have started complaining about the increased amount of time</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
(and therefore the increased period of rot) that it takes for a body</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
(when some one is in fact exposed in that way) to decompose without</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
the help of the birds. There has even been talk of banning the</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
practice 8though in a Parsi stronhold like Bombay I don't see THAT as</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
happneing ... not till the more traditional generations pass on</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
(however they are disposed of).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> (I know. Tibetan script still needs work in Unicode fonts. I have<br>
> Tibetan-specific fonts that stack just beautifully and automatically.)<br>
<br>
</div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">yes, i have Tibetan-specific fonts that stack nicely too ... but they</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
aren't set as default for my gmail account! (as do several OTHER Asian</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
scripts, Bangla for one)<br><br>----------<br><br>
From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"><a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.05.06 (01) [E]<br><br></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Mike Morgan</span> <span><<a href="mailto:mwmosaka@gmail.com" target="_blank">mwmosaka@gmail.com</a> wrote about the Towers of Silence</span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">and the tradition of exposing the dead.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">In fact, Mike, according to reports in the papers over here, the problem is really dire.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The vultures
over the last 2 decaades have been dying off at an alarming rate
because they are also feasting on dead cattle, which have been dosed
with ... and here my unscientific memory fails me .... but some drugs
recommended to Indian farmers to improve the health of their cattle. I
think artificial fertilisers also come into the picture: the farmers
use chemical fertilisers, the grass /crops store it, the cattle eat the
grass/crops and also store it; they die and the vultures strip the
carcase and increasingly build up fatal doses of chemicals which have
been killing them off.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">At first it
was thought that the fact of suburban growth reaching the usually
isolated Towers of Silence was driving the birds away. Then the
problem with the non-removal of dead cattle /animals in the countryside
got to a point when research was needed. The carcases of the dead
vultures proved the point that they are being killed by agricultural
chemicals. India banned the said chemicals some years ago as soon as
the cause was clear - but as with DDT - if you have it and it works,
you use it.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Numbers of vultures are so low that zoos have started breeding programmes to put them back into the wild.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">The great
sadness of this whole story is the disastrous and uncalculated effects
of 'modernising' farming methods around the world. Teaching the 3rd
world to rely on artificial fertilisers instead of natural dung has set
off a downward spiral which results in poorer land, need for even more
fertlisers and a "Silent Spring" of global proportions.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I am sure it's not just the vultures that are feeling the effect of chemical additives to farming.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Here's hoping that you do soon see your first vulture...... and that the Parsi can resume their ancient tradition.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">best wishes</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Heather</p><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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