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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">jonny</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "History" 2008.05.21 (02) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span>Dear
Pat,</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>you asked for
informations about the history of _Bramel_ near Bremerhaven.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Sorry- I'm not so
familiar with that part of our region, and Bramel (first mentioned AD 1185 as
'Brameloh', meaning 'broom-grove') obviously didn't stand out from our
regional history.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span>Perhaps you'd like
to take a look into their German hp here: <a href="http://www.bramel.de/" target="_blank">http://www.bramel.de/</a> , where- with some
contradictions- a continuous Saxon settlement since AD 400 is mentioned as a
possibility.</span></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="left">Allerbest!</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" align="left"> </div>
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Jonny Meibohm</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Mark Dreyer</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net">mrdreyer@lantic.net</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "History" 2008.05.20 (02) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" id="1ewa" class="ArwC7c ckChnd">
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<div>Dear
Soenke, Jonny, Ron & All</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Subject: LL-L
"History"</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Jonny, you
mentioned:</div><div class="Ih2E3d">
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<div style="margin-left: 40px;">What you said about
the role of the north sea, its permanent threat and the inhabitants' attitudes:
The struggle and efforts for safe land has been one of the main driving forces
in Dithmarschen's history. Roughly at AD 700 some inhabitants of the high, dry
"Geest" started forming settlement alliances/companionships (called "Slachten",
G "Geschlechter") in order ro reclaim the wet, low "Marsch" lands. They did so
by building "Wurthen", small man-made mounds higher than storm flood levels.
Over time these "Slachten" managed to claim the power by virtue of the fertility
of their new land, forcing the remaining people on the Geest to also form
"Slachten" to counterbalance. A "Slacht" comprised 2 to 5 rich and a substantial
number of average and poor families/clans and were the basic units when it came
to rising troops in war times.</div>
<div> </div>
</div><div>Now is this term
'Slachten / Geslechten' not related to our Afrikaans & Nederlands 'Geslag' =
'Generation' which I would in this case associate with a fraternity of the same
age-group, & would at least initially set a breadth to the sense of
community rather than a depth to the lineage. It must have been a very forceful
institution...These 'Wurthen', these mounds - could they be called in some other
Lowlands language or dialect 'terpen'?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>& one last
comment; Ron am I right in connecting the word 'Wyk' as well as the other
familiar one across the Channel, '-wich' with the Latin 'Vicus', being the
smallest community unit recognised for administrative purposes in the Later
Roman Empire? Meaning roughly 'military colony' or 'armed camp'? Here in South
Africa, our traditional military structure used the word 'wyk' in this very way,
& each was supposed to field between five & fifteen 'korps' under a
korporaal, each elected to lead a 'huishoud' of not more than a dozen men, &
under the administrative charge of a single govenment appointee & his
assistant, the 'Veld Kornet'. Today 'wyk' is merely a translation of the English
'electoral ward' - not that we use them as such any more.</div>
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<div>Yrs,</div>
<div>Mark</div></div>
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From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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Subject: History<br><br>Hi, Mark!<br><br>You asked:</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Now is this term
'Slachten / Geslechten' not related to our Afrikaans & Nederlands 'Geslag' =
'Generation' which I would in this case associate with a fraternity of the same
age-group, & would at least initially set a breadth to the sense of
community rather than a depth to the lineage. </span><br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Indeed. It's only that in Germany the etymology became obscured; i.e. the connection with </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">slagen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> / </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">schlagen</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> 'to hit' (related to English "slay") is no longer recognized. This accounts for spelling with "ch" instead of etymologically correct "g". However, the nouns </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Slag</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> [slaχ] and </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Schlag</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> [ʃlɑːk] 'hit' are still spelled with "g", because German spelling is taken as the standard, and Standard German /g/ does not become fricative (though in North German dialects it does: </span><i style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Schlag</i><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> [ʃlaχ]).</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><div style="margin-left: 40px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Ron am I right in connecting the word 'Wyk' as well as the other
familiar one across the Channel, '-wich' with the Latin 'Vicus', being the
smallest community unit recognised for administrative purposes in the Later
Roman Empire?</span><br></div><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I don't know, Mark. Maybe someone else does.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Kumpelmenten,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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