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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Elsie Zinsser</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Language varieties" 2008.05.31 (01) [E]<br></span><p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Hi all,</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Ron, the Basters speak Gariep (or Orange-River) Afrikaans to
which Namakwaland-,<br>Boesmanland-, Richtersveld-, Griekwa- and the coastal Veldrif
Afrikaans belong. </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">An example (from: Inleiding tot die Afrikaanse Taalkunde, TJR
Botha Ed.):</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="DE">=======</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="DE">"Ek en Boesak en Tannetjie
en Grietgoed-hulle het gelê ry staan kom van<br>Heen-En-Weerskop na Sannaspoort met mening sam om te lê stan
bottel<br>koop, want ons was dôrs.<br><br>Ons had daar vier ou wilde
brunes in gehad. Aljimmers dan lê stan gee<br>Boesakgoed vir Tannetjiesgoed
die rieme. </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;" lang="DE">Ek het vir Boesakgoed gesê:
"Jy moenie so maak nie".<br>Mit dat hy weer vir
Tannetjiesgoed die rieme stan gee, beuk die ou hotagter<br>perd weg en die het gehool
met die kar dat ons hom vandag toe nie in die<br>wilstand kan kry nie. </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Dit was nie 'n wat vir 'n kar
nie, maar 'n teleurstelling wegens die bottel, want<br>ons moes toe lê troei hoeistoe." </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">===============</span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">The predominant carriers of this dialectical form were the Khoi
and Trekboere (some of mixed race)<br>who left the southern Cape after two small-pox epidemics in
the 1800s and settled in the North-Western<br>Cape, Namibia and Angola by the 1850s. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">My father hails from the Boesmanland and still uses the form
'wat vir 'n..." for anything ranging from a gadget<br>to a new marinade. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">The –goed addition is also very typical, as is the weird phonological
rounded and unrounded forms: <span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">terug > troei<br>hoeistoe > huistoe <span> </span><span> </span><br>beuk > buk/buig<br>
<br>"Mit" instead of "met" is a typical Oos-Kaap Afrikaans form.
<span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Beware, Griekwas and Rehoboth Basters do not consider
themselves Bruinmense or Coloureds despite the attempts<br>by pre- and post-colonial governments to coalesce and label race
and language groups for political reasons! </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">You might want to Google the following: Genadendal; Adam Kok;
Griekwas; Griekwastad; Griekwaland Wes, Griekwaland<br>Oos , Bartlett's church, Monrovian Missions, <a href="http://www.bdb.co.za/kimberley/places.htm" target="_blank"><font color="black"><span style="color: black;">http://www.bdb.co.za/kimberley/places.htm</span></font></a>;
and <a href="http://www.rehobothbasters.org/" target="_blank"><font color="black"><span style="color: black;">www.rehobothbasters.org</span></font></a>. </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">The Basters speak Afrikaans as mother tongue. <span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span><span> </span></span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Elsie</span></font></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 36pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"><div class="Ih2E3d">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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My question:</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 36pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Exactly
what sort of Afrikaans is it that the Basters speak natively (and I assume they
speak Standard Afrikaans as well)? Is it a form of or linked with Griqua
Afrikaans (<a href="http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/griekwa-info.php" target="_blank">http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/griekwa-info.php</a>)?</span></font><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"><br>
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My suggestion:</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 66pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">I
suggest we occasionally discuss Baster history and culture as well. These seem
very interesting to me, especially the aspect of "conservatism" that
some people describe as "more Dutch than the Dutch."</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black;"></span></font></p>
<font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">
Thanks in advance!<br>
<br>
Reinhard/Ron</span></font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">