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<div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">=========================================================================<br>L O W L A N D S - L - 08 June 2008 - Volume 09<br style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">
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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Pat Reynolds</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:pat@caerlas.demon.co.uk">pat@caerlas.demon.co.uk</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "History" 2008.06.07 (06) [E]<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">In message <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:57c981290806071503j7ee6d4c3yc51b9b6ed4f24935@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">57c981290806071503j7ee6d4c3yc51b9b6ed4f24935@mail.gmail.com</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">>, Lowlands-L List <</span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="mailto:lowlands.list@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">lowlands.list@GMAIL.COM</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">> i.e. Fred van Brederode writes</span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
In the beginning of this year I announced on our LL list the trip I was
going to make a trip to San Francisco. I have been back for ages again,
but looking at the pictures I remember a large building in the city
center flying a Dutch (Netherlands) flag: the horizontal tricolor of
red, white and blue bands. It was not the Dutch consulate or something
and I remember having seen this on the east coast (at least in New
England) on a rather large scale. Especially antique shops there fly
the tricolor flag. Sometimes they have the word "open" printed in the
middle (white) band.<br>
<br>
The legend says that Dutch was only this close to becoming the official
language of the US. We are quite convinced these days that this truly
is a legend, but the flying tricolors on the other hand are really
there. Could it be true that the independent US always regretted the
British took over and longed back for the Peter Stuijvesandt era with
the good old red, white and blue bands. Will this explain their
flagging behaviour? Or would there be some other explanation?<br>
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<br></div><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Interesting .... my first question would be 'does this flag really
refer to the Netherlands, or is it co-incidental, or is there a link
but not one that the flag-fliers would necessarily be aware of? This
page: </span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://www.americanflagshoppe.com/flagstore/searchresult.aspx?CategoryID=12" target="_blank">http://www.americanflagshoppe.com/flagstore/searchresult.aspx?CategoryID=12</a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
suggests there is no Netherlands reference. 'Red white and blue' may
seem the 'natural' flag colours in the US because they are on the US
flag. Americans don't seem to think it has anything to do with the
Netherlands: </span><a style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" href="http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/733717" target="_blank">http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/733717</a><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
On the other hand, I do think that 'becoming American' was seen by many
of the descendents of people who settled in the 'Dutch' colonies was
viewed as a positive change from being/becoming a 'British colonial'.
In part that was because even at the point where the British took over,
even Manhattan was not Holland-in-America: for one thing the diversity
national and ethnic backgrounds of people here was remarkable: 'being
Dutch' was also an issue.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Can I recomend 'Holland Mania' by Annette Stott? This charts the re-use of Dutch icons in the United States</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Cheers,</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
Pat</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">
-- <br>
Pat Reynolds<br>
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It may look messy now ...<br>
... but just you come back in 500 years time (T. Pratchett).</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
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