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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Marcus Buck</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org">list@marcusbuck.org</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe">LL-L "Culture" 2008.06.30 (08) [E]<br><br></span><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">
From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>>><br>
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Subject: Culture<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<br>
Thanks a lot, Marcus.<br>
<br>
I sure appreciate your take on this (and you know more about Ina Müller
than I do). I just went by what I read in the interview, and things
like saying that refugee parents dragging their children all over
Babylon are mean seems a bit ... well, dumb to me. No, one doesn't have
to qualify for the post of UN Secretary General, but one can do just a
bit of thinking before speaking. But perhaps I misunderstood it and it
was meant to be some sort of joke that I don't get.<br>
<br>
I see nothing wrong with irreverence, at least not well-place
irreverence that that doesn't put people down and involves thinking and
challenging the status quo.<br>
<br>
"Free rut" is fine, especially at home where everyone pretty much
thinks and acts the same. In this day and age of constant
inter-cultural shoulder-rubbing, however, a modicum of tact and
politeness is warranted, I feel. This has nothing to do with toadying,
just as not making comments to people's faces about their looks, dress
or ways of walking is not toadying. Also, I hardly think that diplomacy
is by definition dishonest. It's a matter of restraint.<br>
<br>
Anyway, it's quite possible I'm misunderstanding and misjudging this
person. Who knows? Just for having said these things I might end up in
one room with her someday ... At least then I'd find out.<br>
<br>
In the meantime I watched a couple of videos of her performances, and
it seems to me that she is a "typical" stand-up comedian, though with a
singing twist, that _relies_ on "naughtiness". In the US, imagine Cathy
Griffin spiking her routines with songs.<br>
<br>
And here she claims that Low Saxon in not "a language in its own right"
(/eine eigenständige Sprache/) but /eine eigene Fremdsprache/ ("its own
foreign language"):<br>
<br>
</div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozQR3BnfFgg&" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozQR3BnfFgg&</a> <<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozQR3BnfFgg&" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozQR3BnfFgg&</a>><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
<br>
</blockquote><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
She does not "claim" anything. She is just using a very lay-woman
terminology in one of her stand-up performances. And she is speaking to
a High German publicum, so that's maybe why she says "Fremdsprache".</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
To the "mean parents" thing: She speaks tongue-in-cheek, it's obvious
that she doesn't seriously blame the parents for anything. It's not
actually a 'joke', but 'jocular'.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
She does stand-up comedy, but "stand-up comedian with a singing twist"
is not really a good description for her. She gives concerts (singing
without stand-up), makes Kabarett, is a TV host for several shows and
writes books. An allround media person.</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" color="#888888">
<br>
Marcus Buck</font><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">