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<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">From: </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="HcCDpe"><span class="EP8xU" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">jonny</span> <span class="lDACoc"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span></span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">Subject: </span><span class="HcCDpe"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.06.30 (02) [E]</span><br><br></span><div><span><font face="Courier New">Beste
Reinhard,</font></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Courier New">>> the word
LS _Klu(u)f_,_Klu(u)v_, used in the idiom 'Dat hebb ick opp'n Kluuv', G: 'da
lauert </font></span></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
<div><span><font face="Courier New">>> Gefahr',
Northern German dialect: <i>'Das habe ich auf Sicht'</i>, E: 'I fear
sth. could be </font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Courier New">>>
dangerous'.</font></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="#008080">> Hmm ...
I rather assume it comes from <i>kluuv'</i> (<i>Kluuv</i> ~ <i>Kluw</i> [kluːˑv] < <i>kluve</i> [ˈkluːve]), dialectical variant
of <i>klau</i> (<i>Klau</i> [klaˑu] < <i>klaue</i>
</font></span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="#008080">>
[ˈklaˑue]) and <i>klaaw'</i> (<i>Klaaw ~ Klaw</i><i> </i>[klɒːˑv] < <i>klawe</i> [ˈklɒːve]). If I remember
correctly, Middle Saxon has <i>kluve</i> ~ <i>kluwe</i> and <i>klawe</i>. These are > cognates of
German <i>Klaue</i> and English <i>claw</i>, with the same meaning. A
derivation from <i>kluuv'</i> is <i>kluven</i> 'to pick (up from the ground)',
'to </font></span></div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="#008080">> glean',
and a derivation from <i>klau</i> is <i>klauen</i> 'to steal'; cf. German
<i>klauben</i> and <i>klauen</i>.</font></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
</div><div><span><font face="Courier New">Yes, thanks. I
share your assumption and found in <em>Schiller/Lübben</em> (Middle Low
Saxon) _kluven_ in the mentioned meaning of 'to pick up', and as a noun
'kluve/klove' in the special sense of a wooden plant to clog a person, as it was
used to arrest people at the 'Pranger' (pillory). The whole family around seems
to deal with a 'splitting', as we find it in words like </font></span><span><font face="Courier New">LS: 'kloyven' (to chop wood),
G: 'Kluft' (cleft), G: 'klaffen' (to gape), E: 'claw'= 'cloven
hoof' and more.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Courier New">So the idiom also
could have arisen from 'there is something (frightening) in the space
in between', 'not obvious at the first glance', I think.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Courier New">I guess we're
dealing with a very archaic expression, but still in use
here.</font></span></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
<div><span></span> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span><font color="#008080">> As for <i>klüftig</i>, I am not sure if it's derived
from <i>Kluft</i> 'abyss' or <i>kluft</i> 'outfit',
'duds'.</font></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
</div><div><span><font face="Courier New">And thus, following
the above interpretation, a person who is 'klüftig' could denote someone
who always is able to find a place to hide, a way to go, 'ein
Schlupfloch'... </font></span></div>
<div> </div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New">Allerbest<span> and thanks again!</span></font></div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New">Jonny Meibohm</font></div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left"><span><font face="Courier New">PS:</font></span></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" class="Ih2E3d">
<div align="left"><font color="#008080"><span>> </span>P.S.: If the usual
pattern holds and our Pacific Northwest weather drifts over to the European
Lowlands, then brace yourselves, folks, for a </font></div>
<div align="left"><font color="#008080"><span>> </span>heatwave is headed your
way! For us it's been from unseasonably cool to unseasonably
hot.</font></div>
</div><div align="left"><span><font face="Courier New">In
Northern Germany we had and still have a remarkable dry spring and early summer.
Not so bad for our marshlands but fatal for the farmers on sandy soil,
especially in the Eastern provinces. But nothing can be so bad that there isn't
something good as well: never in my life I've seen and tasted strawberries
of a quality like this year.</font></span></div>
<div align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div align="left"><span><font face="Courier New">PPS:
</font> <font face="Courier New">I wonder what a 'Jonster' might be...-
something like 'Jonny monster' ;-)?</font></span></div><br>