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L O W L A N D S - L - 06 October 2008 - Volume 02<span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><br>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 96);">Mark Dreyer</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net">mrdreyer@lantic.net</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Lexicon" 2008.10.05 (01) [E]</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Dear
Heather, Luc, Ron, Jorge, Mike & All:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Heather
wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">I have
always be intrigued by the relationship of telling / recounting a story e.g.
conter/raconter erzählen all these have to do with NUMBERS!
& counting.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">& Ron notes
the intimate relationship between 'count' &c. as in number &
'recount' as in anecdote &c. in an Indo-Germanic context, but it is broder
than that, being manifest in the Semetic languages too.
Hebrew applies the root S.P.R equally to number, 'mispar' &c.
& tale, 'sippour' &c. This, guys, must be a really <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">old</span></strong> link.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Luc: Ja,
language is not, as you say, & cannot merely be, merely a sum of it's own
properties, because it is necessarily a communication, a bridge, between
disparate phenomena with different properties, & they will inevitibly also
have a part to play. There would be no point in communication between identical
phenomena.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">There is
more, though. As J.C. Smuts pointed out, holism has a bearing in any
union of parts, in terms of which the union is itself a further property
necessarily unmanifest in & quite unrelated to any separate part. To me,
Chomski disappoints because his speculations do not take account of this, the
wonderful increase in capacity that language acquires in increasing orders
of magnitude following systematically increasing complexity. Binery computers
are a good example of the phenomenal carrying capacity of a <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">multipally-structured</span></strong> system of
nothing but 'on' & 'off'.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Heather,
Ron:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">About veal;
bear in mind calves are a <strong><span style="font-family: Arial;">by-product</span></strong>
of the dairy industry. The cow comes into milk only for the calf. Remove the
calf & milk the cow. This accounts for the availability of veal, calf-skin
vests & vellum - also the fine strong teeth (& bones) of
Western women, where milk is so important to the diet of growing children.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Yrs,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Mark<br>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 131, 145);">Jonny</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Lexicon" 2008.10.05 (01) [E]</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Dear
Heather,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">you
wrote:</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: teal;">I have often
wondered whether the fact that there is no difference in name between
the animal and the meat was an indication that 'lamb' and 'chicken' were
NOT eaten as meats by our medieval forefathers.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: teal;">It might have
been too wasteful to eat a lamb when it could easily feed many more people
after a breeding / shearing life and then be known as 'mutton'</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Absolutely
convincing. I myself don't know lamb or calf meat from my youth - we just ate
castrated or female sheep of an age of about one(?) year, pigs of a size
of about 450 pounds or ox meat. But a kind of chicken we had, because
our clucking hens (Low Saxon: <em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">'Kluck-Hen'</span></em>!)
breeded on our farm, exclusively their or their mates' own eggs (not, as
today, substituted by a breeding plant), and the male chicken were
separated before they became fertile. One cock was left, and to avoid
inbreeding it was butchered one time a year (nono - not always the same one
*g*) and replaced by another one from a neighbour.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: teal;">Similarly a
chicken produced eggs and so was not destined early in its life to the pot. I
keep my hens until they die of old age c 4-5 years and can promise you that
even long slow cooking would produce little of value besides stock!</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Wow!!
You nearly seem to be a self-supporter, with all your additional fruit and
vegetable! Applaudable, really!!</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: teal;">...that
even long slow cooking would produce little of value besides stock</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">I'm
not sure I understand you correctly - just bouillon??</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Did
you ever try a pressure cooker? I promise you - the meat of the oldest bird
(like even 30 years old wild goose) will become delicate, feathery(?) ('zart')
and thus even the meat of an old hen gives a very good, delicate soup
or fricassee. I use to add a wild dove into the pot - they are incredibly
aromatic. (But - five years??? Kill them when they cease to produce an egg
daily - after a guessed time of max. 3 years.)</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">(BTW:
Heather, if you're still interested in the 'tell/count'-relations just have a
look at GRIMM here: <a href="http://germazope.uni-trier.de/Projects/WBB/woerterbuecher/dwb/wbgui?lemid=GA00001" target="_blank">http://germazope.uni-trier.de/Projects/WBB/woerterbuecher/dwb/wbgui?lemid=GA00001</a> under
the lemmata <em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">'erzählen'</span></em>,
<em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">'zahl'</span></em> etc. It's a
confusing lot of stuff, too much for just a quick glance...)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Kind
regards! Hope you're well after this last rain attack...!</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Jonny
Meibohm<br style="">
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