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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Mark Dreyer</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net">mrdreyer@lantic.net</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.10.05 (06) [E]</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Beste
Marcus, Ron, Lowlanders. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Subject</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">: LL-L
"Etymology"</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Ron
notes:</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">English has
a liquid measure called "quart".</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Well of
course there are four 'quarts' (eight pints) to a gallon.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Mark.</span></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" lang="DE"></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">-----------<br>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Arend Victorie</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:victorie.a@home.nl">victorie.a@home.nl</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.10.05 (04) [E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="NL">Moi Wim en Jonny</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="NL">Oord is bij oonz in 't Dreins ok een inholdsmaote.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="NL">Ien oord is een halve liter, twei oord is een mengel dus
een hiele liter.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Goodgaon,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Arend Victorie</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">-----------<br>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Jonny</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.10.05 (06) [E]</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="NL">Beste Marcus,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="NL">dank foyr Dyn Anter!</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: teal;">They
are not related. <i>Quartierchen</i> (or <i>Quartier</i>) is called so, cause
it is the fourth part of a <i>Nössel</i>.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">But
a derivation of _quart..._ (a very old loan from Latin, which already occurs in
OHG) in any case.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">In
this mentioned context <em><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">"Oart",</span></b></em>
which I also know in the same meaning from East Prussia Low Saxon as<strong><i><span style="font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></i></strong><em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">"Quartierche'"</span></em><strong><i><span style="font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></i></strong>or<strong><i><span style="font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></i></strong><em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">"Quartche'"</span></em><strong><i><span style="font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></i></strong>(also <em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">'Achtelche'</span></em> I believe to
remember, but I'm not sure) exclusively denotes the special 'Schnapsration'
which farm workers formerly got when they worked on the fields.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">And
Ron writes: <span style="color: red;">English has a <strong><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">liquid</span></strong> measure called
"quart".</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">Somewhat
different, but in general on the same line what Wim (thanks!) wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="NL">It reminds me of the
dutch saying: ik heb mijn laatste oortje versnoept"</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Oortje
here being a coin. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="NL">nl.wiki </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"><a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oortje_%28munt%29" target="_blank"><span style="" lang="NL">http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oortje_(munt)</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="NL"> says: <em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">In de Middeleeuwen
waren er talrijke munten in omloop, die door <span style="color: red;">een kruis
in vier oorden</span> (hoeken) verdeeld waren. 'Oord' kreeg zo de betekenis
vierde deel van een munt.</span></em> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="NL"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">And
here<em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></em><a href="http://de.mimi.hu/numismatik/quartje.html" target="_blank"><em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">http://de.mimi.hu/numismatik/quartje.html</span></em></a> it
<em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">(oortje)</span></em> still has
_qu_, even _kw_.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">So
this seems to prove that the shift from _kw_/_qu_ to _o_ is not a special,
regional phenomenon but obviously had occured widely spread in LS. Or
isn't it a shift but just a loss? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";">BTW:
it even could be that LS 'Boartmann', describing a special
earthenware bottle, is another member of this family, because mostly
it was used to be filled exactly with that mentioned ration of schnaps (water,
tea or juice for the boys), when the workers went out to fulfil their
daily task. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="DE">From _qu_ via _o_ to _b_? Frei nach U. Jürgens: "Der
Teufel hat den Schnaps gebrannt, um uns zu <em><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">verwirren</span></em>
;-)"!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="DE">Allerbest!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="DE"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" lang="DE">Jonny Meibohm</span></p></div>