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From: Ivison dos Passos Martins <<a href="mailto:ipm7d@OI.COM.BR">ipm7d@OI.COM.BR</a>><br>
Subject: Linguistics Plattdüütsche<br>
<br>
Dear friends,<br>
<br>
I've been studying a little Plattdüütsche , thanks to<br>
<a href="http://lowlandsl.net/grammar/" target="_blank">lowlandsl.net/grammar/</a>
and I'd like to know how to differ the neuter<br>
article "dat" from the demonstrative "dat". How would a
native say the<br>
house and that house? Is the distinction only in saying dat daar Huus?<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
see you.<br>
<br>
Ívison<br>
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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>>
<br>
Subject: Grammar<br>
<br>
Moin, Ívison!<br>
<br>
Since the website you mentioned is mine, I will answer first. Others may give
you different answers.<br>
<br>
And please be aware that I am working on a new and much improved English
version which is temporarily posted here:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://lowlands-l.net/grammar-new/">http://lowlands-l.net/grammar-new/</a><br>
<br>
I had hoped to make some more progress on it this month, but all sorts of other
things have been interfering with it.<br>
<br>
Anyway, in most Northern Low Saxon (Low German) dialects there are five uses of
d<i>at</i>:</span></p>
<ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">neuter definite article (corresponding to <i>it</i> and
<i>et</i> in other dialects, Dutch <i>het</i>, German <i>das</i>)</span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">neuter personal pronoun ('it', Dutch <i>het</i>, German
<i>es</i>), having replaced earlier <i>it</i> and <i>et</i> which survive
in some dialect</span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">neuter
demonstrative ('that', Dutch <i>dat</i>, German <i>das</i>)</span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">relative pronoun or adverb ('that', Dutch <i>dat</i>,
German <i>dass</i>)</span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>Since the
older demonstrative <i>dat</i> has replaced the older neuter article <i>it</i>
~ <i>et</i>, the difference in use can only be told by context and intonation;
e.g.<br>
<br>
<i>dat huus</i> 'that house' (aquela casa)<br>
<i>dat huus</i> 'the house'' (a casa)<br>
<br>
Where demonstration needs to be clarified or emphasized you can add <i>daar</i>
'there', e.g.<br>
<br>
<i>dat daar huus </i></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> (aquela casa)</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>
<i>dat huus daar </i></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> (aquela casa)</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>
<br>
both meaning 'that house (there)' (or 'that thar house' in some English
dialects).<br>
<br>
Similarly, in the case of demonstrative pronouns <i>daar</i> can be added for
clarity or emphasis:<br>
<br>
<i>Is dat (daar) dyn huus?</i> 'Is that your house (there)?'<br>
<i>Nee, dat daar.</i> 'No, that (over) there.'<br>
<br>
I hope this answered your question, Ívison.<br>
<br>
Kumpelmenten,<br>
Reinhard/Ron</span></p>
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