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L O W L A N D S - L - 22 October 2008 - Volume 04<span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><br>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Marcus Buck</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org">list@marcusbuck.org</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Language learning" 2008.10.21 (03)
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From: Jonny <<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de" target="_blank">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de" target="_blank">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>>> </span><span style="font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Subject: LL-L "Language learning"<br>
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</span></p><div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">Dear Lowlanners, Marcus Buck in special!</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
As far as I could experience our Marcus is (besides Reginhard e.a.) the one
with the greatest ambitions to save our Low Saxon language. So, Marcus, I've
sent you this mail on your own account, too, because this might be another,
realistic idea to help LS keeping alive.</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
Having been forced to look into my sons English book (at occasional vocabulary
training :-() I always found out that the authors of it have done some progress
compared with my time as a pupil. Today they try to build bridges from the
English vocabulary to the German one, when listing up a related word though it
might not be the obvious exact translation. For example E 'to turn' v.s. G
'turnen', E 'to keep' v.s. G 'Kiepe' ('bag') and so on.</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
Well, as you might remember I try to give him some basic knowledge concerning
LS, and thus I often complete this row of related words by any Low Saxon word,
for example E 'above' vs. LS 'baoben', which isn't obvious to him at the very
first glance. Why not complete this catalogue of related words including
'Plattdeutsch'?</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
Now, Marcus, you might argue that it's probably impossible to convince the
publishing companies of those books to add Low Saxon analogies as an
supplemental help for the pupils. And I think, you'd pretty right there.</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
But what about the fact that by law there does exist, as you know, a
postulation that children growing up within the relevant areas have a right to
learn, at school!, this minority language of their heimat? Just a handful of
schools (I just know it from </span>Hamburg<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">)
try to follow this rule, but with very low acceptance and success.</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"></span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
Not complete the books, the main books themselves - we wouldn't succeed at that
point.</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
But - if we could convince the responsible persons, maybe in the secretary of
education in Hannover as well as the owners of 'Klett' or whateverelse, to
catch two flies with one trap?</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
Only an additional 'Beiheft' with LS relations for vocabulary training,
facultative perhaps? For a low price (I'm thinking of ca. 10,--EURO)? I'm
nearly sure this would be accepted by a lot of teachers and parents in </span>Northern Germany<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">.</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
Now it's your term, man!</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"></span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
Allerbest!</span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"></span></span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Jonny Meibohm</span></span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>Sounds very
interesting. I guess this could really work. But you have to do some lobbying
for it. Few bussinesses do anything venturous. They are very quick in copying
from competitors the things which have demonstrated to be successful, but doing
something really new? I guess that would need much lobbying.<br>
But writing a school book would perfectly fit into Wikibooks. Wikibooks is
about writing learning materials. It would be possible to write a _free_ book
for use in school. But of course it has to follow the curriculum published by
the ministry of education. Are their curricula available online?<br>
<br>
Marcus Buck<br>
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(Is this actually a new idea? After some thinking about it, I believe, this is
abviously so good an idea, I can't imagine they don't already had it in earlier
times. In the Fifties there were that many speakers of Low Saxon left [left is
not the right word, they were the majority], they would have been very dumb, if
they had not included references to Low Saxon analogies in their books [at
least, that's my opinion]. School books are a consumption ware, which is not
commonly stored in public or private libraries, I have seen no school book from
the Fifties ever in my life. Perhaps there were books with references to Low
Saxon cognates around at that time. Does anybody know?)</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
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