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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Elsie Zinsser</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L was "Language politics" 2008.11.14
(02) [A/E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hi all,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Paul, regarding the
mutual non-understanding of Dutch by certain Afrikaans speakers, this is the
clue: "After English and German, I still find Dutch and Afrikaans the easiest
posts to read on this list."</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Certain
Afrikaans speakers without any third (Germanic) language studies find the
various tenses and flexions in Dutch quite difficult to grasp, as it is for
them with the English language, as second language. This is especially true
when their education was focused on scientific or technical rather than on
language studies. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">It's
preposterous to think it has anything to do with a deliberate refusal on
'nationalistic' grounds! </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Heck, if Petrus'
theory was anything to go by, they would have jumped to the opportunity to
understand the cultural language of the 350 years' removed homeland! :-)
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Regards, </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Elsie Zinsser
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">>Regarding
the mutual intellibility of Afrikaans and Dutch, I find it interesting that
Dutch speakers/readers appear to have little problem with Afrikaans; my
experience in South Africa was that the reverse generally didn't hold true -
but I sometimes wondered if that was a deliberate refusal to understand on
"nationalistic" grounds. I recall having a technical paper in
Dutch which I found fairly easy to work through even with my less than perfect Afrikaans
(I never studied Dutch); yet South Africans, both English and Afrikaans
speaking, seemed to find it very difficult.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> <br></span></p>