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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"><a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.21 (02) [E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Reinhard/Ron wrote And
here comes my own hypothesis that <i>Quiddje</i> (<i>kwidje ~ kwitje</i>) came
from Dutch <i>kwijt</i> (dialectal and Western Low Saxon <i>kwiet</i>) in the
sense of 'unable to function' and 'helpless'. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Definitely a <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">Quiddje </span></em> of Wichenford then!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">..... after an afternoon's
gardening!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Heather</span></p>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Marcus Buck</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org">list@marcusbuck.org</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.21 (02) [E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>>></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Subject: Etymology<br>
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A /Quiddje/ (~ /Quittje /~ /Quietje/) is someone who is not originally from
Northern Germany, usually specifically from Hamburg or from the coast, is not very
familiar with local culture and does not know Low Saxon or Missingsch. It is
also used to refer to a newbie or greenhorn among ships' crews, someone that
doesn't yet know the routines and doesn't have all the necessary skills.<br>
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According to the German Wikipedia (<a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiddje" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiddje</a>),
the origin of the word is obscure. Some believe it comes from French /quitté/
used in connection with merchants' passes at (Hamburg's) city gates.<br>
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I can't help wondering if the word /Quiddje/ (/kwidje ~ kwitje/) is of Dutch
origin like other Low Saxon words of Northern Germany
that end with diminuitve –/je/ (such as /Buttje/, /Bontje/ and /Mattjes/). And
here comes my own hypothesis that /Quiddje/ (/kwidje ~ kwitje/) came from Dutch
/kwijt/ (dialectal and Western Low Saxon /kwiet/) in the sense of 'unable to
function' and 'helpless'. Doesn't this make sense? I think I'll add it to the
Wikipedia article with reference to this posting in our archive.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Dat is
egentlich gegen de Wikipedia-Regeln: <<a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Keine_Theoriefindung" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Keine_Theoriefindung</a>
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De Theorie is ok nich besünners wohrschienlich, denn twischen
/"kwijt" /un "/Quiddje"/ fehlt de Form
/"kwijtje"/, de dat op Nedderlandsch nich gifft.<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
Marcus Buck</span></span></p>
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