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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"><a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.25 (07) [E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Heather Rendall <a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk" target="_blank">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Joachim was asking about
'ragman' / 'ragtime'</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">The more you look into the
word 'rag' the more interesting it becomes.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">The OED has</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">rag - small fragment of
textile , a thing contemptuously regarded as such, shaggy or rough ( of unknown
origin)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">rag - a piece of coarse
stone i.e. the Ragstone in ???? Derbyshire or is it Shropshire?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">rag - to scold or to rate
or to annoy especially in a rough noisy fashion ( Is this where the
students' Rag comes from? I wonder)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">But don't forget ragamuffin
( lovely word) and rag-tag ( imortalised as three rabbits Rag, Tag and Bobtail)
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Back to Ragman - I was
wondering whether this might have been a name for the Mummer or Morris
man who was dressed in tatters or strips of cloth from head to toe and
appeared particularly at MayTime or Whitsun festivities?????</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">viz " The rustics were
engaged in their Whitsuntide amusement of Morris dancing. They literally cover
their bodies and hats with ribbons of all colours ..... " from the Forest of Dean in 19th C</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Just a thought</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Heather</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">There was also in the
Mummers' Christams Play Ragged Jack 'with his family on his back'</span></p>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);"><a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.25 (07) [E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">from Heather Rendall <a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk" target="_blank">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">May I start off a new
thread, please?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">I hope this hasn't been
covered before but I would be v grateful if an member knows of any Lowlands traditions connected to the name Grim.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Next to Wichenford is a
village called Grimley ( originally grimanlege c 966 AD) and a nearby manor
called Grimanhylle.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Although place names based
on Scandanavian Grimr are not unknown elsewhere in England
within the Danelaw area, here in Worcester
( with - Sorry folks! - a reputed Dane's skin nailed to the west
door of the Cathedral) the Viking/ Danish influence was minimal if not
non-existent.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Any clues?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Thanks</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Heather</span></p>