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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe">
</span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.29 (05) [E]</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Thanks Ron;
guess I've never had to deal with giants in Afrikaans or German! Though I'm
surprised I never heard it applied to Springbok rugby forwards....</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Old English
had <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">eoten</span></em>, like Norse <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">jotun</span></em>, so I probably assumed Dutch or
German might be similar. We ditched Middle English <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">ettyn</span></em> for the French geant, though "Sir Gawain and the
Green Knight", about 1350, has <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">etayn</span></em>.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Are there
any links to this word in other languages?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Paul<br>
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<br>
From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28);">Roger Hondshoven</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:rhondshoven@yahoo.com">rhondshoven@yahoo.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.29 (04) [E]</span></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> asked whether there are any words related to Dutch </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">"reus".
German has Riese. Middle Dutch had <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">rese </span></em>next
to <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">reuse.</span></em> Clearly akin to Dutch
<em><span style="font-family: Arial;">rijzen</span></em>, English <em><span style="font-family: Arial;">to rise , to raise.</span></em> </span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><em><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Regards,</span></em><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><em><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Roger Hondshoven</span></em><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">----------<br>
<br>
From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0);"><a href="mailto:ppvaneeden@ziggo.nl">ppvaneeden@ziggo.nl</a></span></span></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.30 (01) [E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Goeie dag,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Heel interessant oor die woord <i>Reus</i>! In my
Etymologisch woordeboek van het Nederlands staan dat die woord <i>reus</i>
moontlik verwant is aan die Latynse <i>verrūca</i> (hoogte) en Sanskrit <i>vársman</i>
(hoogte) en Indo-europees <i>*uer-</i> (verhoogde plek).</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Groete,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Petrus van Eeden</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL">----------<br>
<br>
From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">wim</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:wkv@home.nl">wkv@home.nl</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.30 (01) [E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">From wim
verdoold</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><a href="mailto:wkv@home.nl" target="_blank">wkv@home.nl</a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">zwolle
netherlands.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">About the word Reus , german riese, English
giant.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">The word "Droes" comes to mind, in Germanic
thurs ( also the name of the th rune ).</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Maybe reus comes from dereus, and that is the
mis understood word droes? That happened more often with
words. Putting de and the word together of misunderstanding a word
that starts with the ( de) (den, der) and cutting it up..</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Just a thought,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">I hope I'm not to dol en driest….</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">wim</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">----------</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.30 (01) [E]</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">And thanks
Mark; I replied to Ron's post before I read yours!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">As for
straight-laced British, Ron; I recommend a Friday night in Nottingham to
rapidly cure you of that notion!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Paul </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">----------<br>
<br>
From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Elsie Zinsser</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.30 (01) [E]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Haai julle! </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="DE">Baie dankie, Petrus. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="NL">Ek het 'n paar jaar gelede die wonderlike boekie van
Padraic Colum getiteld</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="NL">Nordic Gods and Heroes</span></i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="NL">
van 'n liewe vriend gekry, waarin na Ragnarök as </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">"the Twilight
of the Gods" verwys word. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="DE">Groete,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="DE">Elsie Zinsser</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="DE">From: </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(121, 6, 25);"><a href="mailto:ppvaneeden@ziggo.nl" target="_blank"><span style="" lang="DE">ppvaneeden@ziggo.nl</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;" lang="DE"><br>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2008.11.28 (02) [E]</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Elsie,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Die woord <i>rag/rak</i> herken jy
ook in die woord <i>Ragnarok</i> of die "eindtyd" volgens die
Germaanse mitologie!</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Die woord <i>ragna</i> dui op
"fynheid" of " mistieke" of selfs "Goddelike".
Die woord <i>ragna</i> is dan ook verwant aan <i>Regent</i> (heerser). Kyk
bietjie hier vir meer besonderhede oor Ragnarok: </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnarok" target="_blank"><span style="" lang="NL">http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnarok</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Hartlike groete,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">Petrus van Eeden</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="NL"><br></span></p>