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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">Marcus Buck</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:list@marcusbuck.org">list@marcusbuck.org</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Traditions" 2008.12.30 (05) [E]</span><br>
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From: Brooks, Mark <<a href="mailto:mark.brooks@twc.state.tx.us" target="_blank">mark.brooks@twc.state.tx.us</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mark.brooks@twc.state.tx.us" target="_blank">mark.brooks@twc.state.tx.us</a>>></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2008.12.30 (04) [E]<br>
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Ron wrote: "In much of Northern Germany
the equivalent, eaten on the same occasions, is the /Berliner/."<br>
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I've heard that when JFK said in his speech at the Berlin Wall, "Ich bin
ein Berliner," he had inadvertently call himself a jelly doughnut.
I've also heard that he should have said, "Ich bin Berliner."
I've seen the video countless times, but is that story true?<br>
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Mark Brooks</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">From: R. F.
Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>>></span></p>
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Subject: Traditions<br></span></p><div style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
Mark, I believe the Berliner story is correct, just as you wrote it. In such
constructions the article tends to be omitted. Similarly for instance /Er ist
Amerikaner/ 'He is American' versus /Er ist ein Amerikaner/ 'He is a
black-and-white cookie'. (The German version isn't necessarily black-and-white,
though: <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikaner_%28Geb%C3%A4ck%29" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikaner_(Geb%C3%A4ck)</a>
<<a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikaner_%28Geb%C3%A4ck%29" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikaner_%28Geb%C3%A4ck%29</a>>,
or /Er ist Pariser/ 'He is a Parisian' versus /Er ist ein Pariser/ 'He is a
condom'.</span><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
</span><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
Regards,</span><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Reinhard/Ron</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">What? No!
The urban legend says, that the audience found his sentence funny. That they
laughed about Kennedy stating "I am a jelly doughnut!" That's not
true. Nobody laughed. Nobody even noticed any ambiguity. For the Berlin people
it was one of the most important and most remembered speeches of the younger
history. "Ich bin ein Berliner!" is perfectly grammatical. "Ich
bin Berliner!" would have been grammatical too.<br>
"Ich bin Berliner!" would have been less ambiguous, cause the 'jelly
doughnut' thing only works with the article present. But "Ich bin ein
Berliner!" sounds better. And the ambiguity is very far-fetched. It's only
ambiguous if you want to misunderstand it. And thus, the 'jelly doughnut' myth
only emerged in American media in the 1980s.<br>
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Read Wikipedia on it: <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bin_ein_Berliner#Jelly_doughnut_urban_legend" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bin_ein_Berliner#Jelly_doughnut_urban_legend</a>><br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
Marcus Buck</span><br>
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