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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Mike Morgan</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:mwmosaka@gmail.com">mwmosaka@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Language programming" 2009.01.10
(05) [E]</span><br>
<br></span></p><div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">A couple days ago </span>Sandy<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
wrote:</span></span></div>
<p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">In British
Sign Language you can sign, with one sign:</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">... one
year old, two years old, three years old... (until the numeration</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>
system splits into separate words).</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">...
yesterday, two days ago, three days ago, four days ago.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
tomorrow, in two days time, in three days time, in four days time.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
last year, two years ago, three years ago... ten years ago.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
next year, in a years time, in two years time... in ten years time.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>SIgn
langues I have encounter are all much the same as described; the only
difference is in WHICH numbers can be "incorporated" into which
expression. Sometimes that differs even from dialect to dialect (for example,
in Japanese Sign language, for the sign "X number of months", in the
east they generally feel comfortable incorporating numbers 1-4 only; in the
west they feel fine going all the way to 12 ... though of course for 12, they
would probably chose to say "1 year"!)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Connecting
this to the discussion of 3D geometry, as Sandy has discussed more than once,
signing "maps" onto the 3D space around the signer for all sorts of
functions, spatial as well as grammatical (person agreement, for example), to
reference "token space" as well as "surrogate space".</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">in additon,
there is the 4th D, time, that is also mapped onto this same 3D space, and most
sign languages have multiple timelines. Typically one of them goes backwards to
past and forwards to the future (as in Sandy's signs for yesterday, today
and tomorrow; last year, this year, next year, etc). In additon to this
frontward-backward timeline, there is the vertical timeline, used for example
when i tell my life story and low down is when i was younger (shorter) and it
goes progressively higher as I get older (taller). A third, right-to-left time
line is used, in Japanese SIgn language anyway, for time spans ... as for
example, when talking about wokring Sunday through Friday, or having a
vacation from Jan 20th to 27th. in the latter, "20" would be
signed to the right and "27" to the left (with "FROM" some
equivalent sign moving from the first to the second). A FOURTH timeline, which
I only know of from Japanese SIgn Language, is vertical like the 2nd, but in
the REVERSE direction, i.e. top-to-bottom. Like the 3rd one this is for
discribing "from X to Y" dates ... and is connected with the
traditional style of writing top-to-bottom (presumably).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">And like 3D
space, such 4thD space can also be used metaphorically in sign language ... or
for pointing out the enigmas of life when things SHOULD be moving in ONE
direction, but in fact are going in the OPPOSITE direction.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Mike || </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">マイク</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> || </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Mangal;" lang="HI">माईक</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="HI"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">|| Мика || </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Shruti;" lang="GU">માઈક</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="GU"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">|| </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Sylfaen;">მაიქ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> || </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Raavi;" lang="PA">ਮਾਈਕ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> <br>
</span><span dir="rtl" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="HE">מייק</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr"></span>
|| </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Latha;" lang="TA">மாஇக்</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="TA"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">|| Miqueu || U C > || <span dir="rtl" lang="AR-SA">ما یک</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr"></span> || Mihangel <br>
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Dr Michael W Morgan <br>
Ishara Foundation || </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Mangal;" lang="HI">ईशारा</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="HI"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Mangal;" lang="HI">फॉउंडेशन</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="HI"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">|| </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">イシャラ基金</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>
Mumbai/Bombay *|* </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Mangal;" lang="HI">मुंबई</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="HI"> *</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">|*
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">ムンバイ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">/</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">ボンベイ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> (</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">インド</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">)<br>
<a href="http://www.ishara.org/" target="_blank">www.ishara.org</a><br>
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Одной рукой не поднять двух арбузов<br>
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