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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0);">M.-L.
Lessing</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:marless@gmx.de">marless@gmx.de</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.01.11 (10) [E]</span></span></p>
<p style="font-family: times new roman,serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">It helped
very much, I feel completely enlightened! Thank you, Reinhard!</span></p>
<p style="font-family: times new roman,serif;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">Marlou<br></span></span></p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); margin-left: 40px;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">From: R. F.
Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Etymology<br>
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<div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Did this
help?</span></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Regards,</span></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Reinhard/Ron</span></span><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0);">Paul Finlow-Bates</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe">
</span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.01.12 (04) [E/F]</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br>There's
also the rather specialised use in "conning tower" on a submarine:
that's where the "man who knows" stands.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" lang="DE">Paul</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);" lang="DE"><span style="word-spacing: 0px;">From: R. F. Hahn <</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style="" lang="DE">sassisch@yahoo.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">><br>
Subject: Etymology<br>
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Hoi, beste Henno, en ek lokkich Neijier!</span><br>
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</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Folks, I should have
made it more explicit that English has somewhat archaic "ken" as a
nominal cognate of </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">kennen</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">. (It is only preserved in idiomatic phrases.)
In Scots, </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">ken</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> is the ordinary word for "know", also for the
verb. </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Ken</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> and </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">can</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> are thus relatives.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Regards,</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Reinhard/Ron</span></span></p>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148);">wim</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:wkv@home.nl">wkv@home.nl</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.01.12 (04) [E/F]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">From wim verdoold</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><a href="mailto:wkv@home.nl" target="_blank"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">wkv@home.nl</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="DE">niederlande , Zwolle.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="DE">Hi,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="DE">Reading these mails about kennen en kunnen.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">And scotish couth; couth reminds me
of dutch "Kuis " not of dutch kunnen and kennen.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">And kunde (
german ) of words like wiskunde , aardrijkskunde , etc…
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">the sciences kunde being Dutch
for greek logia in these words.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Simon Stevin I think the great mathematicer came up
with the word wiskunde for mathematica.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Hopefully this added something..</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Gelukkig nieuw jaar nog,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">wim</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell</span></span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net">kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Etymology" 2009.01.12 (04) [E/F]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Yes, English
still has "ken" (as in "beyond my ken", meaning I don't know or understand
whatever is under discussion). English also has "cunning" – is that
related?</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kevin
Caldwell</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"></span></p>
<div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Subject: Etymology</span><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
</span><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Hoi, beste Henno, en ek lokkich Neijier!</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Folks, I should have made it more explicit that English has somewhat archaic
"ken" as a nominal cognate of </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">kennen</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">. (It is only preserved in
idiomatic phrases.) In Scots, </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">ken</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> is the ordinary word for
"know", also for the verb. </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Ken</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> and </span><i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">can</i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"> are thus
relatives.</span></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Regards,</span></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
Reinhard/Ron</span></span><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">
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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Etymology<br>
<br>
Yes, Kevin. Very astute. "Cunning" does indeed belong to the "can" group, as do "uncanny" and its base "canny".<br>
<br>
Reinhard/Ron</span></p>