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From: <span class="ep8xu"><span style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25);">Cliff Smuts</span></span><span class="hccdpe"> </span><span class="ldacoc"><<a href="mailto:csmuts@xsinet.co.za">csmuts@xsinet.co.za</a>></span><br>
Subject: <span class="hccdpe">LL-L "Syntax" 2009.02.03 (03) [E]</span><br>
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From: Cliff Smuts <a href="mailto:csmuts@xsinet.co.za" target="_blank">csmuts@xsinet.co.za</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Hi you all</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Just read
the interesting syntax re posessive (genitiv) construction and would like to
give some info on this in Afrikaans</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Afrikaans is
a modern language which developed in South Africa
from some time after ±1700, and has srrong roots with dutch (obviously
dialectic dutch). It i also a much less complicated language, with very few
tenses, dativ, nomibative, genitive and accusative suffixes etc</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">in
Afrrikaans we say 'vader se skoene', 'hond se ore', 'motor se wiel' etc.,
although I remeber that we were taught at school (ages ago) that this form
should preferably only be used when a living (person or thing) is the
possessor. ButI experienc that the 'se' construction is used for almost
anything. In other word we use he se particle in most cases where we want
to show possession or belonging to. We also have the form 'die poot van die
tafel', 'die dak van die huis', and even 'die hoed van my ma', in other
words van also shows possession. This form, which corresponds with the 'vvon',
is however, much less used.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Groete (i.s
greetings/ regards/ grüßen, etc).uit Suid-Afrika</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Cliff</span></p>
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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>>
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Subject:: Syntax<br>
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Haai, Cliff!<br>
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</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">Welkom by Lowlands-L en in ons "sprekershoek", albei op die selfde dag!<br>
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Ek het verwag dat iemand al 'n bietjie vroeër verduidelik dat daardie struktuur
normaal en sonder beperkings is in Afrikaans. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Maar ons ander Suid-Afrikaners moet buite wees om
tuinmaak, swem, braais en ander someraktiwiteite te geniet. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE">Dus baie dankie, Cliff. Jy kry die
prys, en dat op jou eerste dag!<br>
<br>
Die Kahoena van Lowlands-L is baie tevrede met jou.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="DE"><a href="http://lowlands-l.net/treasures/kahuna.htm">http://lowlands-l.net/treasures/kahuna.htm</a><br>
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Groete,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Administrateur<br>
Seattle, USA</span></p>
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